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Old 09-24-2019, 09:54 PM   #821 (permalink)
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Old 09-24-2019, 09:57 PM   #822 (permalink)
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Literally sounds like the most reasonable thing anybody could ever say.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 09-24-2019, 09:57 PM   #823 (permalink)
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Cool. Then get out. Inform yourself about your alternative options that you do consent to and leave. You have all the information in the world at your finger tips via the internet, naivety is not an excuse.

Arguing that you didnt consent to existence is about the most unreasonable thing I could imagine. That's some seriously next level, snowflake, trigger warning meme ****.

When you want something that doesnt exist you dont sit there and complain it doesnt exist. You either make it exist or make the best of what you got.
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Old 09-24-2019, 09:57 PM   #824 (permalink)
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How ****ing peabrained do you have to be? This society does not give you an out unless you are highly motivated and goal oriented. I am not highly motivated and goal orientated. That does not mean I consent to this society. I was shoved into this society simply because my mother shoved me out of her **** and my consent was assumed. At no point did I ever sign any consent form to be in this society. This society does not have my consent for me to be in it. And yet I am expected to go way far above and beyond the call of consent just to remove myself from it.

Let me make myself clear: I DO NOT CONSENT TO BEING HERE AND I WANT OUT AND I WOULD LIKE AN ALTERNATIVE OTHER THAN SUICIDE TO BE ABLE TO LEAVE AND LIVE A LIFE I DEEM DESIRABLE.
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Old 09-24-2019, 10:07 PM   #825 (permalink)
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Cool. Then get out. Inform yourself about your alternative options that you do consent to and leave. You have all the information in the world at your finger tips via the internet, naivety is not an excuse.
If you're kidnapped, taken into a white van, tied up, blindfolded, and then dropped into the middle of a forest you have no familiarity with and no survival skills is it reasonable to ask the person to survive or is it cruelty?

Or does it become acceptable if you teach the person how to build a fire?

Does it become acceptable if you also teach the person to build traps for animals?

Does it become acceptable if you also teach the person which plants are edible?

At which point does it become acceptable to thrust a person into a position they have not consented to and demand that they survive?

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Arguing that you didnt consent to existence is about the most unreasonable thing I could imagine.
Why is consent important for sex but not existence?
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Old 09-24-2019, 10:10 PM   #826 (permalink)
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No ones demanding you survive. Im demanding you deal with the situation in the best way you know how, and youre stomping your feet screaming "i dont wanna". O well, thats the situation youre in, you deal or you dont. Im not arguing it isnt cruel, im sorry you feel the way you do, but your choices are limited. Such is life.

It's important for sex and not existence because we dont decide who we bring into existence... What a far fetched analogy.
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Old 09-24-2019, 10:14 PM   #827 (permalink)
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Tbh you were talking about sailing and **** and how ignoring middle class values is a key to happiness and when I offered the mildest type of encouragement that that sounded like something maybe worth pursuing you got all pissy

You don't seem to actually want there to be an answer.

So as for existence... Literally nothing that exists decided to exist. If you don't want to exist there is one clear solution. If you want a better existence, that is a bit more complicated but at the very least it takes some effort and an open mind.
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Old 09-24-2019, 10:15 PM   #828 (permalink)
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No ones demanding you survive. Im demanding you deal with the situation in the best way you know how, and your stomping your feet screaming "i dont wanna". O well, thats the situation youre in, you deal or you dont.
Literally we are demanded to survive without our consent or else humankind would die.

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It's important for sex and not existence because we dont decide who we bring into existence... What a far fetched analogy.
We literally do decide who we bring into existence. There are no storks carrying Marios. There are only people who choose to have sex. If you are the product of rape then I apologize. But your father probably still decided something.

I swear to god you are probably very smart in clinical ways but you have the imagination of a ****ing accountant. Reminds me of Adolf Eichmann tbh. Couldn't understand why what he'd done was evil cause he couldn't think outside of his society's expectations.
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Old 09-24-2019, 10:20 PM   #829 (permalink)
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Whos demanding you to live besides yourself? Better yet, whos enforcing those demands?

Im okay with that.. idc about your philosophy, I care about logical consistency and the scientific method.
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Old 09-24-2019, 10:21 PM   #830 (permalink)
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I'm sure someone would have stopped me if I'd grabbed a scalpel in the delivery room and tried to end it all. Seriously do you not understand what society puts on the people it brings into it? I literally think you are using Adolf Eichmann logic.
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