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The Batlord 06-21-2019 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2062322)
though I suppose it's being debated right now as to whether we consider Russia as "part of the West" now

They're white. They're Western. They just have conflicting loyalties.

The Batlord 06-21-2019 02:17 PM

I mean ask China or Japan if Russia are a bunch of white people. And "a bunch of white people" is exactly what the West is.

Frownland 06-21-2019 02:20 PM

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OccultHawk 06-21-2019 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug McClasky (Post 2062304)
You know full well you're wearing braids because of black hip hop culture and pretending otherwise is the most exploitative form of cultural appropriation short of black face.

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Lucem Ferre 06-22-2019 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Doug McClasky (Post 2062304)
You know full well you're wearing braids because of black hip hop culture and pretending otherwise is the most exploitative form of cultural appropriation short of black face.

I fully do. I've literally said that it's from hip hop and white trash culture. Mine are much more white trash though. Not that it makes me look better. Well, at least not in your ironically superficial & prejudice hierarchy of culture which is more evidence of how phony your obnoxiously pious attitude is.

Either way, I'm not leaching off of or stealing the culture. I'm a guest in that culture and I have profound respect for it.

If you really want to talk about being a vulture we can discuss how the two people who openly exploited Chula's mental instability for their own amusement like to pretend to be compassionate and understanding of mental illness for the perception of it. That's you exploiting mental health for your own gain with no real respect for it. You didn't just do it to Chula, you did it to Kiiii as well. Then you actively trash the idea of getting help and tell people to just accept their problems as who they are. Because you don't have any actual respect for it. You like to pretend sometimes, it's part of your piousness, but you don't actually care.

Lucem Ferre 06-22-2019 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2062288)
who's the bigger culture vulture me or lucem

Neither of us, elph. Neither of us are vultures.

Consider this, though.

The way you and others treat people for having different taste is just as hierarchical, bigoted, prejudice and superficial as the oppression that comes from classism. You guys routinely show me just how you'd be exactly the same if given the same power through your actions.

I'd argue that some of you actually are just as classist. Consider every punchline at me has to do with some kind of white trash, wigger stereotype. It's not only culturally bigoted, but it's down right the same exact oppressive attitude you're claiming to hate.

grindy 06-22-2019 01:50 AM

Elph is also jeansist.

The Batlord 06-22-2019 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2062351)
I fully do. I've literally said that it's from hip hop and white trash culture. Mine are much more white trash though. Not that it makes me look better. Well, at least not in your ironically superficial & prejudice hierarchy of culture which is more evidence of how phony your obnoxiously pious attitude is.

Either way, I'm not leaching off of or stealing the culture. I'm a guest in that culture and I have profound respect for it.

If you really want to talk about being a vulture we can discuss how the two people who openly exploited Chula's mental instability for their own amusement like to pretend to be compassionate and understanding of mental illness for the perception of it. That's you exploiting mental health for your own gain with no real respect for it. You didn't just do it to Chula, you did it to Kiiii as well. Then you actively trash the idea of getting help and tell people to just accept their problems as who they are. Because you don't have any actual respect for it. You like to pretend sometimes, it's part of your piousness, but you don't actually care.

And I do it to you too, crazy pants.

grindy 06-22-2019 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Doug McClasky (Post 2062326)
They're white. They're Western. They just have conflicting loyalties.

Stop applying dumb American white vs. non-white paradigms to everything.

Lucem Ferre 06-22-2019 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Doug McClasky (Post 2062354)
And I do it to you too, crazy pants.

Oh, I know. Which is sad because I'm one of the only people that won't make fun of you for working fast food as if my scruples are real and not just for show. It's honestly really bothered me when I see other people do it.


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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2062361)
it's just that "wigger" was the primary culture in the places I grew up

it had nothing to do with class

It's a cultural and racial slur implying that white people don't belong in hip hop. Let me make this clear for you. You are not hip hop. You don't belong in hip hop, you don't respect hip hop and you don't represent hip hop in any way. The fact that either of you have the gall to think you can speak for a culture that you are not a part of is far more disrespectful and exploitative than anything I've done.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2062361)
now as an adult I just want to be around like minded people

but then metalheads infiltrate post-punk night and it's like fookin hell this city blows

You say adult but that actually sounds fairly juvenile.


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