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OccultHawk · 10-25-2017, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Prepping people to be functioning members of society is a good trade for a teacher having to deal with being told to suck a dick. You're not missing the forest for the trees, you're missing it for the leaves.

Go try and be a teacher and then tell me what the **** I’m missing.

OccultHawk · 10-25-2017, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Yeah I'm sure there would be ****s, but teach lower class kids skills they actually, honestly think they can use and I suspect the amount of kids who didn't care would actually drop precipitously. You'd just have to get them used to a curriculum they thought they could use and convince them that, yes, we are in fact teaching you life skills, and no, we're not bull****ting you.

It will never work.

**Frownland** · 10-25-2017, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Go try and be a teacher and then tell me what the **** I’m missing.

The success.

~~[MERIT]~~ · 10-25-2017, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

From what I've seen, common core math makes a lot of sense and most likely helps kids understand large numbers and how to approach using them in math a lot better.

I help 4 children with their math homework every week. I can tell you that from my experience, common core is not about learning, but about control.

They don't even teach them the original / basic ways of math. They won't let you just add the fucking numbers together and get an answer. You have to round each number to the nearest 10, then to the nearest 100, then add those, then subtract the originals from the rounded, add those, then subtract that from the answer you got by rounding and adding. Or some stupid shit like that.

If you do it the old way and get the right answer, they count it wrong b/c you didn't follow directions properly.

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Originally Posted by Trapjunkie

Any thoughts on the arising #MeToo-campaign? Imo it has gotten a bit out of hand undermining the real victims when Every girl on social media spams this hashtag..

I have seen some god awful fugly chicks post it and I had to [mentally] call BULLSHIT. And when a male posts it, they get laughed at. Like men can't be victims?

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I don't know why we don't offer trade school options in high school. Why not offer kids the knowledge of how to fix cars or weld when they're still in school? They'd clearly do better with that than Algebra 2 that they'll forget in a week if they even learned it in the first place.

Couldn't agree more!

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Compulsory education of any kind is a failure.

Forcing people to do things against their will is hardly the best approach to bettering our society.

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Originally Posted by Frownland

What is the goal of compulsory education?

Control of the population. Push agenda into the minds of kids who don't know any better.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

in America education needs to be free and non-compulsory.

Free education sounds enticing. I think access to knowledge should be free in this day and age. But free education only comes from tax money. And taxation is theft. I can understand the argument that if we are going to be taxed anyways, we may as well use those taxes for something good like free education. Find a way to make education free w/o using tax money and I'm all for it.

**Frownland** · 10-25-2017, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

It will never work.

Change is hard so let's just give up: an American tale.

OccultHawk · 10-25-2017, 07:58 PM

Education will be free as soon as we abolish money.

The Batlord · 10-25-2017, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

It will never work.

In disregard for all my nihilism, I actually disagree with this. People in general are pretty retarded when it comes to deciding how the actual world should work (f.ex. North Korea, the economy, Russia, etc) but when it comes to things within their actual lifesphere they can be surprisingly intelligent. And I think learning trades when it's free and right in their faces via public education could very well be one of those things. I'm not saying that your average person would revolutionize the auto industry, but I very much think they could grow up to be perfectly good mechanics who tried their ass off to be a mechanic. They just have to be given the chance via a public education system that isn't a garbage heap and now I see your issue. But I mean we can fix this ****, right?

OccultHawk · 10-25-2017, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

The success.

Clever answer. Go do it then. I guarantee you have no idea how hopeless it is.

[merit] I know what you’re talking about. They’re trying to teach kids how numbers work in a base 10 system. Like everything, they take a good idea, get too rigid with it, it gets all ****ing political, and the whole thing gets way out of hand. Everything is public school is complete bat****.

The Batlord · 10-25-2017, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I agree with Occult in theory though compulsory education is not ideal to say the least

Well then how would you teach kids? I mean if they'd never made school compulsory how many parents would actually make their kids go to school these days? It's kind of an assumed thing at this point that doesn't even need to force parents cause they've been forced so long that they don't even think about it. But I shudder to think what would have happened had parents never been forced to send their kids to school in the first place. Outlawing child labour and forcing them to go to school were kind of a turning point.

OccultHawk · 10-25-2017, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

In disregard for all my nihilism, I actually disagree with this. People in general are pretty retarded when it comes to deciding how the actual world should work (f.ex. North Korea, the economy, Russia, etc) but when it comes to things within their actual lifesphere they can be surprisingly intelligent. And I think learning trades when it's free and right in their faces via public education could very well be one of those things. I'm not saying that your average person would revolutionize the auto industry, but I very much think they could grow up to be perfectly good mechanics who tried their ass off to be a mechanic. They just have to be given the chance via a public education system that isn't a garbage heap and now I see your issue. But I mean we can fix this ****, right?

No. We can’t.

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