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**Frownland** · 10-25-2017, 12:39 PM

Problem-Attic

It contains many non-traditional math approaches for mental processing. People bitch about that because it wasn't how they lurnt it.

OccultHawk · 10-25-2017, 02:27 PM

Yeah

I looked through that link the first time.

If you can provide evidence that people who can actually do math frequently take issue with these approaches I’ll defer. I think what we really have is people who can’t do math complaining about math and one corporation that has the market cornered and others clawing for it.

**Frownland** · 10-25-2017, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Yeah

I looked through that link the first time.

If you can provide evidence that people who can actually do math frequently take issue with these approaches I’ll defer. I think what we really have is people who can’t do math complaining about math and one corporation that has the market cornered and others clawing for it.

I was going off of what the popular opinion is, so I guess the conclusion that we should draw from this is that most people don't know how to do math.

OccultHawk · 10-25-2017, 03:34 PM

Fair enough.

This might be of some interest

Why is this Common Core math problem so hard? Supporters respond to quiz that went viral - The Hechinger Report

OccultHawk · 10-25-2017, 06:37 PM

You ever read John Taylor Gatto?

The Batlord · 10-25-2017, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

my opinion is that not everyone needs to know math past a certain level

in fact most kids don't and failing a kid that can't pass geometry which he'll never ever use unless he specifically desires a career in these specific fields is retarted

But on a more philosophical note education is not about developing an intelligent population so much as it's about churning out an obedient work force while quickly labeling those that will not jump through the hoops as having "behavioral problems"

I don't know why we don't offer trade school options in high school. Why not offer kids the knowledge of how to fix cars or weld when they're still in school? They'd clearly do better with that than Algebra 2 that they'll forget in a week if they even learned it in the first place.

**Frownland** · 10-25-2017, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

my opinion is that not everyone needs to know math past a certain level

in fact most kids don't and failing a kid that can't pass geometry which he'll never ever use unless he specifically desires a career in these specific fields is retarted

Ja they shouldn't be failed, they should be castrated.

OccultHawk · 10-25-2017, 06:45 PM

It wouldn’t help. Compulsory education of any kind is a failure. If you taught trades there still wouldn’t be any more demand for those trades. Just like the entire computer literacy thing is a farce.

**Frownland** · 10-25-2017, 06:47 PM

What is the goal of compulsory education?

The Batlord · 10-25-2017, 06:48 PM

But at least kids would have something to fall back on besides something that was only worthwhile if they finished an 8 year degree. I highly doubt it would fix the current demographics, but at least kids would have something regarding a fighting chance.

10-25-2017, 12:39 PM	#251 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Problem-Attic It contains many non-traditional math approaches for mental processing. People bitch about that because it wasn't how they lurnt it. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,006	Yeah I looked through that link the first time. If you can provide evidence that people who can actually do math frequently take issue with these approaches I’ll defer. I think what we really have is people who can’t do math complaining about math and one corporation that has the market cornered and others clawing for it. __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html

10-25-2017, 03:34 PM	#254 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,006	Fair enough. This might be of some interest Why is this Common Core math problem so hard? Supporters respond to quiz that went viral - The Hechinger Report __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html

10-25-2017, 06:37 PM	#255 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,006	You ever read John Taylor Gatto? __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html

10-25-2017, 06:45 PM	#258 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,006	It wouldn’t help. Compulsory education of any kind is a failure. If you taught trades there still wouldn’t be any more demand for those trades. Just like the entire computer literacy thing is a farce. __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html

10-25-2017, 06:47 PM	#259 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	What is the goal of compulsory education? __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x