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Old 12-17-2019, 10:22 PM   #1221 (permalink)
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Nah, if you gave me a magic button we'd all be extinct tomorrow.
I honestly don’t believe you that it wasn’t a slam on the poor but ok nice play. Good luck finding that button.

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the welfare Queen thing is real though

I know this will land in deaf ears but I knew many people growing up who abused welfare and treated their kids as another paycheck

My own family abused the system

My friends family abused the system

The system is designed so that working is punished and having extra kids is rewarded. That's a terrible incentive structure. People work under the table just to not disrupt their benefits. People have kids knowing this can bring in more money.

I don't disagree in spirit that raising kids right is a definite service to society worth paying for... I'm just unsure how you would ensure the money is actually going to fund kids being raised right in any effective way.
Once the rich are sterilized and/or eliminated globally then we can think about population reform for decent people who don’t hoard wealth. People born into generational wealth live in a manner that’s environmentally unsustainable so naturally they need to be culled first.
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Old 12-18-2019, 02:14 AM   #1222 (permalink)
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just simply having produced a child that makes it to 18 is a giant service to the economy

even if they live on the dole! All you have to do is be spending in some capacity, demand drives the economy

contrasted with "job creators" who hoard mass amounts of wealth and thus are the real "anchor babies"
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Old 12-18-2019, 06:22 PM   #1223 (permalink)
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just simply having produced a child that makes it to 18 is a giant service to the economy
that's a pretty low bar to set for "being a good mother"

Nevermind the psychological damage they inflict on their kids... As long as they survive to adulthood!


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even if they live on the dole! All you have to do is be spending in some capacity, demand drives the economy
I don't really buy that

It's true to an extent the consumer class is important but that's a very simplistic way to justify people living on the dole

I don't even care about people abusing the system either, in any moral way. I'd do it myself. I just think it's delusional to act as if it's really a positive.
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Old 12-18-2019, 07:36 PM   #1225 (permalink)
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Old 12-18-2019, 08:09 PM   #1226 (permalink)
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the most moral thing we could all do is to quit working and live on the dole
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Old 12-18-2019, 10:07 PM   #1228 (permalink)
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the most moral thing we could all do is to quit working and live on the dole
Thats a pretty silly position to take when we have plenty of resources, if properly managed, for no one to live on the dole. We should be bringing people up not pulling the ones above water down.
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If we live in civilizations that could provide for their citizens but instead choose to create never ending war and genocide then why shouldn't every citizen turn their noses up and steal from the dole as much as they can? Maybe eventually the governments would fall short of the money they to kill everyone and have to go back to the drawing board.
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Old 12-19-2019, 12:07 AM   #1230 (permalink)
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all it would take is for everyone to not go to work tomorrow to bring the system down
If no one can agree on anything in life e.g. the first lunar landing, global warming, Donald Trump, music, etc etc How are you going to get them to agree on not to go to work tomorrow?
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