Architecture

rubber soul · 01-31-2022, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic

^ HaHa! There was a debate about Confederate statues here a few years back. At first I took the position that "They're history, they should be left in place," but Janzoon convinced me otherwise, explaining that they celebrate an oppression that many Americans find offensive. I think many have now been transferred to museums where their presence is less "in your face".

We had a controversy about it here in Baltimore too and I was initially on the fence about it as well. I think the George Floyd incident really changed a lot of minds in the US though. Yes, most of the statues have either have been sent, or are being sent, to museums, or, in a few cases, destroyed.

Lisnaholic · 01-31-2022, 07:32 AM

Yes, there has been more awareness about these old statues - in England as well.

Unfortunately, removing a statue does what? It reduces the visually interesting stuff in civic spaces. Completely unrealistic, but I would like to see the controversy about statues fixed like this: for every slave-owner mounted on a horse, the authorities should commission and build an opposing statue on the theme of "the triumph of the common man". That would give a moral balance to civic spaces, plus a history lesson, which could serve as a brief respite from what city centres are usually devoted to: cars and commerce.
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Thanks for posting the context of your remark, Tristan. As you might imagine, I would never have got the reference myself! Unluckily for you, you have inspired me to post a child's guide to the wonders of gothic:-

adidasss · 02-06-2022, 08:10 AM

The above is the new Museum of the future, opening at the end of the month in Dubai as the latest "architectural wonder" which has people jizzing their pants but I find it rather garish. :/

Lisnaholic · 02-07-2022, 07:45 AM

Wow! That is certainly eye-catching isn't it? I don't like it either: it's too big and too dramatic. It also breaks a cardinal rule of architecture, and of nature: form follows function. That's a good rule, imo, because it means that what you see indicates what it does: a leaf is typically thin and broad to catch sunlight, a trunk is a solid cylinder to act as a support.
Who can guess what is going on inside this building? ...but I suspect there are a lot of awkward, under-used spaces, especially in the bit on the left-hand side that is catching the sunlight in your photo.

Plankton · 02-07-2022, 07:48 AM

I'd love to see the floor plans for that.

Lisnaholic · 02-07-2022, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Plankton

I'd love to see the floor plans for that.

Likewise the steelwork details as the structure negotiates those curves! I suppose, as a museum "..of The Future" it has some excuse for its extravagant look though.

No secret that I personally prefer more traditional architecture, so I'm posting a link to some photos of beautiful European castles:-

https://edition.cnn.com/style/articl...les/index.html

My favourite: photo #3 in the short slide-show

Plankton · 02-07-2022, 08:23 AM

Walp... ask and ye shall receive:

https://lusive.com/lusivelife/post/d....AZgWlxOO.dpbs

From just a quick perusal, it appears the design was visualized using Trimbles Tekla structural analysis software.

https://www.tekla.com/us/resources/r...-engineering-2

Thats some engineering flex right there.

Lisnaholic · 02-07-2022, 09:56 AM

Thanks Plankton! I think those two links together have made me change my mind about this building. Hats off to any team that can create something so complex.

From this viewpoint it looks a lot better, I think.
Did you notice that among the skyscrapers on the right, there's one that turns into Big Ben at the top? Oi, Dubai! 'ands off me cultural icon!!

Plankton · 02-07-2022, 10:03 AM

Looks like thats Al Yaqoub Tower, inspired by the original:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Yaqoub_Tower

adidasss · 02-07-2022, 10:08 AM

That angle is much better Lisna because you can see one of my favorite towers in the UAE just behind it, the Emirates towers, which are the exact opposite of that musem in terms of style and elegance...

01-31-2022, 07:32 AM	#462 (permalink)
Lisnaholic ...here to hear... Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: He lives on Love Street Posts: 4,444	Yes, there has been more awareness about these old statues - in England as well. Unfortunately, removing a statue does what? It reduces the visually interesting stuff in civic spaces. Completely unrealistic, but I would like to see the controversy about statues fixed like this: for every slave-owner mounted on a horse, the authorities should commission and build an opposing statue on the theme of "the triumph of the common man". That would give a moral balance to civic spaces, plus a history lesson, which could serve as a brief respite from what city centres are usually devoted to: cars and commerce. ___________________________________________ Thanks for posting the context of your remark, Tristan. As you might imagine, I would never have got the reference myself! Unluckily for you, you have inspired me to post a child's guide to the wonders of gothic:- __________________ "Am I enjoying this moment? I know of it and perhaps that is enough." - Sybille Bedford, 1953

02-06-2022, 08:10 AM	#463 (permalink)
adidasss Slavic gay sauce Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Abu Dhabi Posts: 7,945	The above is the new Museum of the future, opening at the end of the month in Dubai as the latest "architectural wonder" which has people jizzing their pants but I find it rather garish. :/ __________________ “Think of what a paradise this world would be if men were kind and wise.” - Kurt Vonnegut, Cat's Cradle. Last.fm

02-07-2022, 07:45 AM	#464 (permalink)
Lisnaholic ...here to hear... Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: He lives on Love Street Posts: 4,444	Wow! That is certainly eye-catching isn't it? I don't like it either: it's too big and too dramatic. It also breaks a cardinal rule of architecture, and of nature: form follows function. That's a good rule, imo, because it means that what you see indicates what it does: a leaf is typically thin and broad to catch sunlight, a trunk is a solid cylinder to act as a support. Who can guess what is going on inside this building? ...but I suspect there are a lot of awkward, under-used spaces, especially in the bit on the left-hand side that is catching the sunlight in your photo. __________________ "Am I enjoying this moment? I know of it and perhaps that is enough." - Sybille Bedford, 1953

02-07-2022, 07:48 AM	#465 (permalink)
Plankton Just Keep Swimming... Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: See signature... Posts: 7,765	I'd love to see the floor plans for that. __________________ See location...

02-07-2022, 08:23 AM	#467 (permalink)
Plankton Just Keep Swimming... Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: See signature... Posts: 7,765	Walp... ask and ye shall receive: https://lusive.com/lusivelife/post/d....AZgWlxOO.dpbs From just a quick perusal, it appears the design was visualized using Trimbles Tekla structural analysis software. https://www.tekla.com/us/resources/r...-engineering-2 Thats some engineering flex right there. __________________ See location...

02-07-2022, 09:56 AM	#468 (permalink)
Lisnaholic ...here to hear... Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: He lives on Love Street Posts: 4,444	Thanks Plankton! I think those two links together have made me change my mind about this building. Hats off to any team that can create something so complex. From this viewpoint it looks a lot better, I think. Did you notice that among the skyscrapers on the right, there's one that turns into Big Ben at the top? Oi, Dubai! 'ands off me cultural icon!! __________________ "Am I enjoying this moment? I know of it and perhaps that is enough." - Sybille Bedford, 1953

02-07-2022, 10:03 AM	#469 (permalink)
Plankton Just Keep Swimming... Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: See signature... Posts: 7,765	Looks like thats Al Yaqoub Tower, inspired by the original: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Yaqoub_Tower __________________ See location...

02-07-2022, 10:08 AM	#470 (permalink)
adidasss Slavic gay sauce Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Abu Dhabi Posts: 7,945	That angle is much better Lisna because you can see one of my favorite towers in the UAE just behind it, the Emirates towers, which are the exact opposite of that musem in terms of style and elegance... __________________ “Think of what a paradise this world would be if men were kind and wise.” - Kurt Vonnegut, Cat's Cradle. Last.fm