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rubber soul 01-31-2022 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 2198119)
^ HaHa! There was a debate about Confederate statues here a few years back. At first I took the position that "They're history, they should be left in place," but Janzoon convinced me otherwise, explaining that they celebrate an oppression that many Americans find offensive. I think many have now been transferred to museums where their presence is less "in your face".

We had a controversy about it here in Baltimore too and I was initially on the fence about it as well. I think the George Floyd incident really changed a lot of minds in the US though. Yes, most of the statues have either have been sent, or are being sent, to museums, or, in a few cases, destroyed.

Lisnaholic 01-31-2022 07:32 AM

Yes, there has been more awareness about these old statues - in England as well.

Unfortunately, removing a statue does what? It reduces the visually interesting stuff in civic spaces. Completely unrealistic, but I would like to see the controversy about statues fixed like this: for every slave-owner mounted on a horse, the authorities should commission and build an opposing statue on the theme of "the triumph of the common man". That would give a moral balance to civic spaces, plus a history lesson, which could serve as a brief respite from what city centres are usually devoted to: cars and commerce.
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Thanks for posting the context of your remark, Tristan. As you might imagine, I would never have got the reference myself! Unluckily for you, you have inspired me to post a child's guide to the wonders of gothic:-


adidasss 02-06-2022 08:10 AM

https://gulfbusiness.com/wp-content/...1233733212.jpg

The above is the new Museum of the future, opening at the end of the month in Dubai as the latest "architectural wonder" which has people jizzing their pants but I find it rather garish. :/

Lisnaholic 02-07-2022 07:45 AM

Wow! That is certainly eye-catching isn't it? I don't like it either: it's too big and too dramatic. It also breaks a cardinal rule of architecture, and of nature: form follows function. That's a good rule, imo, because it means that what you see indicates what it does: a leaf is typically thin and broad to catch sunlight, a trunk is a solid cylinder to act as a support.
Who can guess what is going on inside this building? ...but I suspect there are a lot of awkward, under-used spaces, especially in the bit on the left-hand side that is catching the sunlight in your photo.

Plankton 02-07-2022 07:48 AM

I'd love to see the floor plans for that.

Lisnaholic 02-07-2022 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Plankton (Post 2199078)
I'd love to see the floor plans for that.

:laughing: Likewise the steelwork details as the structure negotiates those curves! I suppose, as a museum "..of The Future" it has some excuse for its extravagant look though.

No secret that I personally prefer more traditional architecture, so I'm posting a link to some photos of beautiful European castles:-

https://edition.cnn.com/style/articl...les/index.html

My favourite: photo #3 in the short slide-show

Plankton 02-07-2022 08:23 AM

Walp... ask and ye shall receive:

https://lusive.com/lusivelife/post/d....AZgWlxOO.dpbs

From just a quick perusal, it appears the design was visualized using Trimbles Tekla structural analysis software.

https://www.tekla.com/us/resources/r...-engineering-2

Thats some engineering flex right there.

Lisnaholic 02-07-2022 09:56 AM

Thanks Plankton! I think those two links together have made me change my mind about this building. Hats off to any team that can create something so complex.

http://lusive.com/images/uploads/content/Killa0.png

From this viewpoint it looks a lot better, I think.
Did you notice that among the skyscrapers on the right, there's one that turns into Big Ben at the top? Oi, Dubai! 'ands off me cultural icon!!

Plankton 02-07-2022 10:03 AM

Looks like thats Al Yaqoub Tower, inspired by the original:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Yaqoub_Tower

adidasss 02-07-2022 10:08 AM

That angle is much better Lisna because you can see one of my favorite towers in the UAE just behind it, the Emirates towers, which are the exact opposite of that musem in terms of style and elegance...


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