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Lisnaholic 11-29-2017 07:50 AM

^ Yes, I'm afraid the people and country of Poland were hit particularly hard in the Second World War.


^ Those blank end-walls are just the perfect site for a mural; I think these two are my favourites, especially the last as it has a carefully designed paint job on the long facade too.

In England, on a much smaller scale, we also had post-war "prefabs", which also were used for decades longer than originally planned:-

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/55/cc...f1abdf9eea.jpg

We also have plenty of sixties tower blocks; it was a time when planners talked optimistically about "streets in the sky", ignoring the reality that a dull, narrow and windswept access-balcony miles from any communal facilities is nothing to enthuse about:-

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...3_2461323k.jpg

Plankton 11-29-2017 08:21 AM

Can't have an Arch thread without FLW. A lot of his work is local to me, and I've visited a few places, but that was a long time ago when I was in school. You can see his influence in a lot of the later buildings around here too, so Frank Lloyd Wright 'inspired' designs are pretty common. I just perused a few images, here's some of the more popular works he's done:

Falling Water
https://blog.travefy.com/wp-content/...oyd-Wright.jpg

Robie House
http://s3.amazonaws.com/architecture...house-03-2.jpg

The Rookery
http://res.cloudinary.com/simpleview...7e53e927c3.jpg

Unity Temple
https://i2.wp.com/design.newcity.com...ity-Temple.jpg

Larkin Building
https://images.adsttc.com/media/imag...jpg?1486992115

Taliesin West (his winter home)
https://freshome.com/wp-content/uplo...n-Taliesin.jpg

Lisnaholic 11-29-2017 09:27 AM

^ Nice pics! "Falling Water" must be the most photograped house in the world I should think, though I liked the Robie House more - and the Winter home one too.
The Brit equivalent of FLW might be Charles Voysey; in the 1900s both were building houses for the rich in a style that everybody copied for years to come:-

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a2/41...b5136e6e69.jpg

He wasn't as innovative as FLW and in fact you have to bit a bit of a specialist to see that they're innovative at all. Also, he never got a song written about him either, so if this is an Architecture Wars thread, I'll concede this round to the USA. :(

Plankton 11-29-2017 09:47 AM

^Without having any prior knowledge of him, and looking through a few of his works, I'd say his innovations were in the use of arches and off angles. Just a layman's observation.

...and, didn't we already beat you guys in some kind of war a while back? The War thing is so 3 centuries ago.

Frownland 11-29-2017 09:55 AM

Guy Dreier is a local dude with some cool stuff. Not sorry for the big pics.

https://robbreportedit.files.wordpre...341.jpg?w=1000

https://robbreportedit.files.wordpre...7p41.jpg?w=991

http://guydreierdesigns.com/images/Mideastthumb.jpg

Lisnaholic 11-29-2017 10:38 AM

^ Now those buildings are exciting! Especially the top two.

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Originally Posted by Plankton (Post 1899149)
^Without having any prior knowledge of him, and looking through a few of his works, I'd say his innovations were in the use of arches and off angles. Just a layman's observation.

^ Yes, that's about all I see too, also he occasionally went.... assymetric !

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...and, didn't we already beat you guys in some kind of war a while back? The War thing is so 3 centuries ago.
^ :laughing:

Cuthbert 11-29-2017 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1898440)
I've never seen Ibrox Park, but you're right about the symmetry, etc. I am particularly impressed with the curved stair towers that've been added on; a pleasing shape, clearly from a different era, but blending into the original design. That's not an easy thing to get right.



^ You are very well informed, MLM. I think you have given the little-known Archibald Leitch the honour of being the first architect to get his own personal name check in this thread!

Cheers mate. Yeah it's definitely one of the better ones from the pre-war era imo, has the four individual stands that the old grounds have but the roofing is all level and well done, other grounds don't have that. Probably a bit lucky with it's location in that there is loads of room around it, grounds like Goodison are not really possible to just expand which is a shame.

I too would like to see posts from our European forumistas, I think Zaqarbal might be good in this thread. Hope he sees it.

Loving all these posts and pics :cool:

Cuthbert 11-29-2017 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1899150)
Guy Dreier is a local dude with some cool stuff. Not sorry for the big pics.

https://robbreportedit.files.wordpre...341.jpg?w=1000

Reminds me of Paisley Park.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 11-29-2017 12:59 PM

i can't remember if i posted this already but

http://www.condonova.ca/sites/defaul...k%20Condos.png

that's the apartment building currently being built across the road from me. can't imagine why anyone would want to live there. ugly building with way too much glass imo, i feel like there's no privacy unless you have a blind down in every window.

Plankton 11-29-2017 01:03 PM

It's for people who don't throw stones.

Cuthbert 11-29-2017 01:06 PM

Why not just build it with equivalent floors on either side? Was it for bants?

The building will look like shit when people move in and some blinds are down and others not.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 11-29-2017 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1899221)
Why not just build it with equivalent floors on either side? Was it for bants?

The building will look like shit when people move in and some blinds are down and others not.

dunno. seems like a strange concept to me. i believe it might be condos so i'm assuming they would wait until they've at least sold a few before starting construction, so maybe there is some interest. not for me though, looks silly.

Lisnaholic 11-29-2017 03:29 PM

Yes that's a very uninspiring building; the colour, the geometry, the materials are just not interesting. I hope it'll improve when a bunch of young couples move in and you buy yourself a telescope. ;)

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 11-29-2017 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1899271)
Yes that's a very uninspiring building; the colour, the geometry, the materials are just not interesting. I hope it'll improve when a bunch of young couples move in and you buy yourself a telescope. ;)

http://www.indiewire.com/wp-content/...ndow.jpg?w=640

me :D

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 11-30-2017 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1899759)
looks kinda interesting

your mom looks kinda interesting

Frownland 12-01-2017 02:52 PM

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/10/b8/c9/1...apartments.jpg

DwnWthVwls 12-01-2017 05:54 PM

^Reminds me of this:

The Interlace - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Interlace
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...3bb9b7530a.jpg

http://ctbuh.org/Portals/0/Feature%2...erlace/003.jpg

https://s3-ap-southeast-1.amazonaws..../L/1910652.jpg

Lisnaholic 12-02-2017 05:13 AM

^ This is an absolutely fabulous display of how high-density housing can be visually exciting too. A bit of imagination and the architects have created a very intriguing landscape from simple elements and easy-to-understand principles.

Bits to love about this design:-
i) the blocks stacked on each other feel "right", just as they would to a kid of five.
ii) the proportions of each individual block are satisfying; they are like ghetto blasters on display in a shop window.
iii) in picture #1 you can see between the blocks to the trees beyond.
iv) the little bits of roof terrace in picture #2, and the big, bold plinth that allows one block to oversail the swimming pool.
v) the plan of the site, which shows how a few straight lines, put together right, will turn into a circle.

I like The Interlace so much more than the kind of bizarre geometry that Frank Gehry has made fashionable. His approach seems to be, "We have the technology so let's do it, even if there's no clear structural reason for it."

http://3tgmli1sbjtj2hpytw6t8lw1.wpen...ilbaoabout.jpg

I'm sure in its way The Bilboa Museum is impressive to see, but all that shiny metal and the weird angles kind of puts me on edge. It reminds me too much of metal off-cuts, which we instinctively avoid touching:-

https://lselectric.com/wp-content/up...t-is-Swarf.jpg
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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1899308)

^ :laughing: Can you PM me your best shots please? Girl-on-girl action, girls and animals, you know, that kind of stuff.......

Cuthbert 12-02-2017 05:29 AM

Yeah that is smart.

Plankton 12-07-2017 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1900243)
https://media1.britannica.com/eb-med...4-2EE9818C.jpg

I'm sure in its way The Bilboa Museum is impressive to see, but all that shiny metal and the weird angles kind of puts me on edge. It reminds me too much of metal off-cuts, which we instinctively avoid touching:-

All I have to do is walk into the fab shop (here at work) and I instantly start bleeding. Kidding of course, but yeah, that's a heightened instinct when you work with steel. I see exactly what you mean with the Bilboa. It never really occurred to me.

Lisnaholic 12-08-2017 03:32 PM

^ HaHa! Yes, I think anyone who comes near that stuff is very careful!
I wonder if the word "swarf" ever made it across the Atlantic? Somehow, I suspect not; even in England it didn't make it out of the factories up north afaik.

Cuthbert 01-21-2018 02:03 PM

The Semperoper in Dresden, Germany.

http://monipag.com/margaux-wossmer/w...b3b8b5e_04.jpg

School of Art & Science in Stroud, Gloucestershire, UK:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...%26Science.jpg

https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/scho...e-64067260.jpg

Love these.

Been following a development here for a while that I was planning on posting when it neared completion, but with the collapse of Carillian I don't know what is happening with it now. I was really excited about it.

Frownland 01-21-2018 06:26 PM

https://dornob.com/wp-content/upload...id-house-2.jpg

https://dornob.com/wp-content/upload...em-fol.no_.jpg

Chiomara 01-22-2018 02:56 PM

This was a very cathartic read: Why You Hate Contemporary Architecture

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This idea, that architecture should try to be “honest” rather than “beautiful,” is well expressed in an infamously heated 1982 debate at the Harvard School of Design between two architects, Peter Eisenman and Christopher Alexander. Eisenman is a well-known “starchitect” whose projects are inspired by the deconstructive philosophy of Jacques Derrida, and whose forms are intentionally chaotic and grating. Eisenman took his duty to create “disharmony” seriously: one Eisenman-designed house so departed from the normal concept of a house that its owners actually wrote an entire book about the difficulties they experienced trying to live in it. For example, Eisenman split the master bedroom in two so the couple could not sleep together, installed a precarious staircase without a handrail, and initially refused to include bathrooms. In his violent opposition to the very idea that a real human being might actually attempt to live (and crap, and have sex) in one of his houses, Eisenman recalls the self-important German architect from Evelyn Waugh’s novel Decline and Fall, who becomes exasperated the need to include a staircase between floors: “Why can’t the creatures stay in one place? The problem of architecture is the problem of all art: the elimination of the human element from the consideration of form. The only perfect building must be the factory, because that is built to house machines, not men.”

Alexander, by contrast, is one of the few major figures in architecture who believes that an objective standard of beauty is an important value for the profession; his buildings, which are often small-scale projects like gardens or schoolyards or homes, attempt to be warm and comfortable, and often employ traditional—what he calls “timeless”—design practices. In the debate, Alexander lambasted Eisenman for wanting buildings that are “prickly and strange,” and defended a conception of architecture that prioritizes human feeling and emotion. Eisenman, evidently trying his damnedest to behave like a cartoon parody of a pretentious artist, declared that he found the Chartres cathedral too boring to visit even once: “in fact,” he stated, “I have gone to Chartres a number of times to eat in the restaurant across the street — had a 1934 red Mersault wine, which was exquisite — I never went into the cathedral. The cathedral was done en passant. Once you’ve seen one Gothic cathedral, you have seen them all.” Alexander replied: “I find that incomprehensible. I find it very irresponsible. I find it nutty. I feel sorry for the man. I also feel incredibly angry because he is ****ing up the world.”

Chiomara 01-22-2018 04:14 PM

The Shah Cheragh in Shiraz:

http://momenti.al/wp-content/uploads...e_hamze_11.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/d6/c7/b5/d...ace-mosque.jpg

http://www.allempires.com/forum/Uplo...rs/Shrine1.jpg

http://lh5.ggpht.com/-3p3N0foxsLk/VC...5B2%25255D.jpg

http://cdn.yomadic.com/wp-content/up...agh.jpg?x35322

Just imagine lying down in here at night while listening Tim Hecker's Virgins. I would die.

Cuthbert 01-22-2018 04:26 PM

I approve.

Chiomara 01-22-2018 05:06 PM

Best cabins to get murdered in scored on a scale of 1-10:

https://cdn.trendir.com/wp-content/u...x450-23137.jpg
9/10. Unnerving. Makes me think of a dental office in the underworld. David Lynch lives here.

http://novovrijeme.ba/wp-content/upl..._PORTOLANO.jpg
A good traditional folk tale style murder spot. 9/10.

https://images.adsttc.com/media/imag...jpg?1467882548
10/10. Inexplicably unsettling. If I saw this building in a dream I would run as far away as possible.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...f225250798.jpg
3/10. Boring. Looks like an abandoned forest condo that Gwenyth Paltrow might have rented when harvesting quail eggs for her $18,000 elixir of youth supplements or whatever it is she does.

DwnWthVwls 01-23-2018 03:43 PM

I love the second one. I wanna see the inside. Do you know where it is? If I could live in a place like that and have internet, I'd be set for life.

As for the rating system.. I think the first one is by far the creepiest. I could easily imagine a dead body and blood everywhere in that first image. It's really just asking to be the opening crime scene of some "artistic" psycho on Criminal Minds or something. That, or someone just hanging from the center light fixture(?).

MicShazam 01-23-2018 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiomara (Post 1918494)
http://novovrijeme.ba/wp-content/upl..._PORTOLANO.jpg
A good traditional folk tale style murder spot. 9/10.

I don't find this one creepy at all. It's adorable! I seriously, no joke, want to live in a building like that.

Chiomara 01-25-2018 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1919019)
I love the second one. I wanna see the inside. Do you know where it is? If I could live in a place like that and have internet, I'd be set for life.

As for the rating system.. I think the first one is by far the creepiest. I could easily imagine a dead body and blood everywhere in that first image. It's really just asking to be the opening crime scene of some "artistic" psycho on Criminal Minds or something. That, or someone just hanging from the center light fixture(?).

It's located in the Bosnian woods.
"A magical cabin converted from a watermill by a Serbian painter whose father owned and operated minimills along this Bosnian river.”

Can't find a picture of the inside :c

Also there's an official cabin porn website apparently: Cabin Porn


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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1919154)
I don't find this one creepy at all. It's adorable! I seriously, no joke, want to live in a building like that.

No you're right, it is adorable; I would kill to be able to live there. I can't think of a more ideal Chio dwelling.

Lisnaholic 01-28-2018 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1917959)
School of Art & Science in Stroud, Gloucestershire, UK:

https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/scho...e-64067260.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiomara (Post 1918468)

^ These are beautiful pictures of two beautiful buildings. The mosque is just fabulous, isn't it? :thumb:

Of Chiomara's cabins, I really like the third one - the minimalist black one with corrugated cladding and steep roofs, but this one is nice too:-

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1919154)
http://novovrijeme.ba/wp-content/upl..._PORTOLANO.jpg
I don't find this one creepy at all. It's adorable! I seriously, no joke, want to live in a building like that.

^ This must be your Scandanavian roots calling out to you, MicShazam, because it looks so much like these "stave churches", from the earliest days of Christianity in Norway:-

http://cdn.touropia.com/gfx/b/2017/0...ave_church.jpg
http://cdn.touropia.com/gfx/d/touris...church.jpg?v=1

MicShazam 01-28-2018 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1921255)
^ This must be your Scandanavian roots calling out to you, MicShazam, because it looks so much like these "stave churches", from the earliest days of Christianity in Norway:-

I don't know about that, since we don't have churches like that in Denmark, but they do look amazing! Our churches, on average, look like this:

http://www.thorninger.com/0vejlednin...irke281214.jpg

The white walls, red tiled roof and stairstep gables on the tower are very typical. Quite a boring design, especially compared to the Norwegian churches above. At least they don't burn as easy.

Lisnaholic 01-28-2018 07:33 AM

oooh! "stairstep gables"! This is impressive vocabulary, MicShazam ;)

It looks to me like a really nice church, but you're right, it's relatively simple and un-adorned, and as with all designs, if you see too many similar ones, too often, they become boring.

(Also your photo makes the church look particularly good; the sky has a darker tone than the building, which is always the best lighting arrangement for a bit of building porn.)

MicShazam 01-28-2018 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1921265)
oooh! "stairstep gables"! This is impressive vocabulary, MicShazam ;)

It looks to me like a really nice church, but you're right, it's relatively simple and un-adorned, and as with all designs, if you see too many similar ones, too often, they become boring.

(Also your photo makes the church look particularly good; the sky has a darker tone than the building, which is always the best lighting arrangement for a bit of building porn.)

I had to to google how to translate "gavl", which is the end walls up near the roof. I'm not even sure gable is the right term :laughing:

Danish churches looking boring is perhaps only fair to say when compared with the impressive old churches found all over other European nations. Old Danish churches were relatively utilitarian and modest in design.

Lisnaholic 01-28-2018 08:32 AM

No, you're absolutely correct with "stairstep gable"!

Yes, Europe has some very inspiring old churches, but while still in the far frozen north of places like Denmark, I thought I'd post this famous modern church from Reykjavik, Iceland:-

http://all-that-is-interesting.com/w...h-daylight.jpg

MicShazam 01-28-2018 10:10 AM

That's an interesting design. Almost everything in the design seems conceived as an upright standing pole. Also kind of looks like a 50's b-movie rocket.

Frownland 01-29-2018 06:06 PM

https://scontent.fsan1-2.fna.fbcdn.n...82&oe=5AEA4BB6

Ninetales 01-30-2018 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1921272)
No, you're absolutely correct with "stairstep gable"!

Yes, Europe has some very inspiring old churches, but while still in the far frozen north of places like Denmark, I thought I'd post this famous modern church from Reykjavik, Iceland:-

http://all-that-is-interesting.com/w...h-daylight.jpg

it's wildly massive. couldn't get a photo of ourselves with the entire church in one shot. Reykjavik also his their opera house, which is gorgeous both inside and out

https://www.iconeye.com/images/2014/...harpa-main.jpg

http://www.stagesconsultants.com/per...ics/harpa8.jpg

Plankton 01-30-2018 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1921769)

Reminds me of container homes:

https://www.icontainers.com/resource...ner-homes1.jpg

https://www.containerhomeplans.org/w...iner-House.png

I've designed a few office containers, fully insulated with HVAC, full electrical packages, stretched, windows, doors, and a host of other amenities, but we've pretty much stayed away from the residential aspect of it all, being that I'm not a licensed architect. Plus, it's a bit of a niche market.

Cuthbert 02-03-2018 05:00 PM

Watching the NFL show. They're doing a Super Bowl special.

Love that stadium.


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