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Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 10-02-2017 11:47 AM

your job looks hard

Plankton 10-02-2017 12:02 PM

Just the first few hundred, then I got the hang of it.

Cuthbert 10-02-2017 12:12 PM

So apparently it's World Architecture Day. I did not know this.

Edinburgh, United Kingdom:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLH885TXkAAKZed.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLH9KsIW0AE3pCA.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLH9aOPWAAAFHy6.jpg

One for Q-Man, this used to be our main stand at Villa Park, I know I'm biased, but I truly do think it was the most beautiful stand in the whole of football:

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-co.../PA-504788.jpg

https://images.cdn.fourfourtwo.com/s...?itok=A-Oyri4w

Around Villa Park, there are a few buildings that really fit in with this style.

Sadly it was demolished in 2000 and replaced by a new, modern stand. Capacity increased and much better facilities, but I think the ground lost some of it's charm with the demolition of the old stand. The main stand at Ibrox was based on it, as was the Holte End when that was rebuilt in the 90s.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 10-02-2017 12:53 PM

yeah, that’s quite sexy.

Lisnaholic 10-03-2017 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1878894)
love it. reminds me of legos.

haha! I never thought of that. Perhaps they can break it up and try to build something better then:-

https://static.dezeen.com/uploads/20...-1-852x447.jpg

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always found this apartment building to be interesting, the design is strangely similar to a stack of cargo containers. especially considering it's right on the waterfront.

https://killamreit.com/sites/default...?itok=cSjNrtNF
^ I'm sure that similarity was intentional, and it makes a great building, with a very successful use of colours imo.

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1878907)
In my opinion, building colors and materials should complement the environment around the building. Climate, weather, landscape, and the buildings already built around it should be a factor in any building's design. Blue and lots of glass look great in Miami, but not in England, New York City, or Shanghai. The more congested cities become, the less colorful and bright they should look. It looks more natural that way.

^ Good point. Here's a seaside town in Morocco that took your advice and uses blue paint for everything:-

http://igomorocco.co.uk/wp-content/u...ra-streets.jpg.....https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/me...-essouaria.jpg


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Originally Posted by Plankton (Post 1878984)

Did someone say 'containers'?
My work is more function than form.

^ Wins the thread by posting a building that you worked on! Plus it looks good. :clap:

Plankton 10-03-2017 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1879291)
^ Wins the thread by posting a building that you worked on! Plus it looks good. :clap:

What's my fabulous prize?

I also have my name on some drawings for structural mods for the Chrysler Building and the old Madison Square Garden Score Board from when I worked at a prestigious archy firm. I have to say, Architects are a strange breed. They work long hours for minimal pay, and it's a tough gig to stand out and make a name for ones self. I have the utmost respect for any one brave (read: crazy) enough to set out on that path.

Frownland 10-03-2017 03:04 PM

https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...24&oe=5A4CE0CA

GuD 10-03-2017 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1878907)
In my opinion, building colors and materials should complement the environment around the building. Climate, weather, landscape, and the buildings already built around it should be a factor in any building's design. Blue and lots of glass look great in Miami, but not in England, New York City, or Shanghai. The more congested cities become, the less colorful and bright they should look. It looks more natural that way.

SF doesn't have a really consistent climate. It's kinda like... yeah we're gonna do foggy first thing in the morning then it might rain it might not who gives a **** the afternoon? ah **** it let's be breezy and sunny and then lets some fog in once everyone leaves the house and evening time we'll do the usual slightly chilly wind and clear skies and in tomorrow we're gonna do this whole thing all over again except backwards. So architecture complimentary of nature's background is kinda... not possible.

RiPS 10-04-2017 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1879390)

Uhh...

That's awesome.

OccultHawk 10-04-2017 05:57 AM

Not stupid and pretentious?

Lisnaholic 10-04-2017 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Plankton (Post 1879299)
What's my fabulous prize?

http://images.memes.com/meme/911252


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Originally Posted by GuD (Post 1879471)
SF doesn't have a really consistent climate. It's kinda like... yeah we're gonna do foggy first thing in the morning then it might rain it might not who gives a **** the afternoon? ah **** it let's be breezy and sunny and then lets some fog in once everyone leaves the house and evening time we'll do the usual slightly chilly wind and clear skies and in tomorrow we're gonna do this whole thing all over again except backwards. So architecture complimentary of nature's background is kinda... not possible.

^ It's all done with mirrors, GuD. ;)

http://weburbanist.com/wp-content/up...-1-468x312.jpg

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1879390)

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1879521)
Not stupid and pretentious?

^ No, just super-cool and innovative in my opinion - although it doesn't seem to have a handrail and probably breaks about a zillion safety codes.

Lisnaholic 10-08-2017 07:37 AM

How should a building look ?

If you think the principal goal is to catch people's attention, this one must count as a winner. It's in Melbourne, and it exploits a famous optical illusion; although it doesn't look that way, all those thin orange lines are parallel. You can check it yourself (as I did); your eyes may say "no" but your ruler will say "yes."

https://www.weekendnotes.com/im/007/...docklands1.jpg

For me, it's a bit too much, and the ground floor of the long side just looks like a mess of electrical transformer boxes or something, painted in airport-safety orange. One feature I quite like are the blue circles that look struck-on and not related to the facade. I'd like to see more of those, perhaps in different sizes. And if they were made to be movable, they could be slid around the facade by a strong guy with a very long pole. That would surely catch people's attention.

Cuthbert 10-08-2017 07:58 AM

Subjective innit? I like the Victorian and Gothic style architecture but I like a lot of the modern build stuff too. I don't like that building you just posted but not because it stands out or because of the design, it's mainly because the cladding looks cheap.

One thing I really hate is the brutalist style of architecture. I just cannot see how that style is appealing to anybody.

Cuthbert 10-08-2017 08:03 AM

Though I could imagine the Melbourne illusion building really working if it was in a section of the city surrounded by other eye catching buildings and public art, like an area for clubs, bars and shopping. Graffiti art and stuff. I could see that being really attractive.

Lisnaholic 10-08-2017 08:13 AM

Yes, I like those old styles too, with all the care and detail that was put into them. I'm not opposed to modern architecture, though I don't see much that I like, tbh.

I think the Brutalist style would've been ok if there were just 3 good examples of it on the whole planet. The same with the Glass Box - a handful of good-quality examples would've been sufficient, but instead we have them like a plague in every city, and more often than not "the cladding looks cheap." After all, if the cladding is all we have to look at, let's make it decent!

EDIT: Not sure where the Melbourne building is, but it doesn't look very interesting to me; carparks, fences, and some office buildings behind.

Lisnaholic 10-08-2017 08:37 AM

A friend of mine once walked me round the Jubilee Campus of Nottingham University, which I think you would have enjoyed too, MLM. Of course, it doesn't hurt that the new buildings are set in a car-free area of grass and wáter. Also the site is big enough to give space and dignity to each building even though their styles are so different:

http://www.hopkins.co.uk/usr/library...n2_a3print.jpg

https://thumb1.shutterstock.com/disp...y-97753154.jpg

https://alumni.nottingham.ac.uk/imag...lee-campus.jpg

..... or take the drone tour:-


Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 10-08-2017 08:47 AM

the third one down is brilliant. love how smooth it looks. the grass hill on the far side is nice as well.

Lisnaholic 10-08-2017 09:19 AM

Yeah, I like that one too, Qwertyy. It has a very pleasing shape, which you can see clearly in the video clip. I like how the building is a bridge too.

OccultHawk 10-08-2017 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1880734)
How should a building look ?

If you think the principal goal is to catch people's attention, this one must count as a winner. It's in Melbourne, and it exploits a famous optical illusion; although it doesn't look that way, all those thin orange lines are parallel. You can check it yourself (as I did); your eyes may say "no" but your ruler will say "yes."

https://www.weekendnotes.com/im/007/...docklands1.jpg

For me, it's a bit too much, and the ground floor of the long side just looks like a mess of electrical transformer boxes or something, painted in airport-safety orange. One feature I quite like are the blue circles that look struck-on and not related to the facade. I'd like to see more of those, perhaps in different sizes. And if they were made to be movable, they could be slid around the facade by a strong guy with a very long pole. That would surely catch people's attention.

Repulsive visual pollution. Having to see that everyday would be about as nice as having a Flock of Seagulls CD stuck in your car stereo.

Lisnaholic 10-08-2017 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1880901)
Repulsive visual pollution. Having to see that everyday would be about as nice as having a Flock of Seagulls CD stuck in your car stereo.

^ :laughing: Yeah, in the end it's too distracting for its own good - you have to look at it even when you don't want too.

Cuthbert 10-10-2017 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1880758)
the third one down is brilliant. love how smooth it looks. the grass hill on the far side is nice as well.

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1880776)
Yeah, I like that one too, Qwertyy. It has a very pleasing shape, which you can see clearly in the video clip. I like how the building is a bridge too.

Same, don't like that red thing though.

Anyone got any 'most hated' buildings?

Frownland 10-10-2017 02:00 PM

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/...7576630919.jpg

Cuthbert 10-10-2017 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1881616)

Not the World Trade Centre then?

Frownland 10-10-2017 02:03 PM

That one wasn't really the building's fault.

Frownland 10-10-2017 11:14 PM

Singapore

https://careerwith.me/column/wp-cont...78_960_720.jpg

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 10-10-2017 11:46 PM

now that's what i call the super bowl

Lisnaholic 10-11-2017 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1881615)
Same, don't like that red thing though.

^ Well, it's another example of a building inspired by Lego, which seems to be a cliché of post-modern architecture.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1881766)

^ Yeah, no interesting color, and a confused jumble of unrelated shapes, especially on the waterfront to the right - while the dominant bit to the left reminded me of a bunch of bananas.

It must be depressing enough to be a worker drone in Eastern Europe, but you really don't need architecture that throws that fact in your face every day. Here are some housing blocks in Zagreb: -

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/732/32...9b5580a8_z.jpg
http://www.thebohemianblog.com/wp-co...i-Zagreb-3.jpg

Making an multi-storey carpark look attractive is a challenge, but not impossible. Rather than meet the challenge, Glasgow decided to go with ugly commonplace tat instead:-

http://www.ardrossanherald.com/resou...onsive-gallery

What these buildings have in common is the determination to avoid any color except Concrete Grey, and any architectural element beyond the minimal requirements of function.

Frownland 10-11-2017 06:14 AM

It may be confused by some standards but it's cool as **** imo. You know it's two different buildings, right?

Lisnaholic 10-11-2017 07:10 AM

HaHa! I thought you were posting a picture of a building you hated !

Yes, the Sky Park at the back is certainly a bold and unusual bit of architecture, and I like the taper and twist of the three tower blocks:-

https://senatus.net/media/files/myer...tus__wPJs_.jpg

Also, from a different angle, the waterfront buildings make a lot more sense. Strung out in a line, they look a lot better:-
http://www.greenroofs.com/projects/m...s_skypark7.jpg

Still not too convinced by the bunch of bananas tbh, but that's just my opinion. Also, of course, we should see architecture "in the round" as they say; what looks cluttered in a photo may not be that way at all irl.

Cuthbert 10-11-2017 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1881783)
It must be depressing enough to be a worker drone in Eastern Europe, but you really don't need architecture that throws that fact in your face every day. Here are some housing blocks in Zagreb: -

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/732/32...9b5580a8_z.jpg
http://www.thebohemianblog.com/wp-co...i-Zagreb-3.jpg

Awful.

The building Frown posted looks better in the above pics. I like the public garden at the top or whatever you'd call it. Stuff like that is a good idea.

I'd like to see football stadiums do something similar with their roofing, have places to view the match on top of the stadium where you can walk around, like a viewing balcony. I'm sure it's possible to put two either side of the halfway line with railings protecting you from falling off. Maybe it's not worth doing financially but it's a cool idea imo.

Wpnfire 10-11-2017 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1881619)
Not the World Trade Centre then?

Which era of the buildings are you referring to?

Lisnaholic 10-12-2017 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1881812)
I'd like to see football stadiums do something similar with their roofing, have places to view the match on top of the stadium where you can walk around, like a viewing balcony. I'm sure it's possible to put two either side of the halfway line with railings protecting you from falling off. Maybe it's not worth doing financially but it's a cool idea imo.

Yes, your idea would be great, and I'm sure it's just lack of financial viability - or lack of imagination - that stops it happening.

The flat tops of tall buildings are such an under-used resource. They are places where both people and plants can breath and "let themselves be beautiful."
What's more surprising is that even when built, people don't bother using roof gardens. At least, that is the strange story of this extensive roof garden atop a department store in the UK.

https://www.architecture.com/image-l...34.FFFFFF.jpeg.....https://i2.wp.com/www.guildford-drag...?fit=480%2C333
http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/...re-id105470200

As teenagers, me and my bff used to go there, sit at the café tables or walk over the concrete stepping stones. We were usually alone, the heyday in photo #3 having long gone, and the goldfish in the ponds invariably outnumbered the visitors. For us, that made it an even more magical experience in the middle of a fair-sized bustling city. But with no punters, they had to close the café and then the roof itself.; on my last visit, sneaking in where I wasn't supposed to be, it was overgrown and dilapidated, looking stranger than ever. But the strangest thing of all is that the city had such a wonderful facility and lost it just because they couldn't be bothered to climb a flight of stairs!

Cuthbert 10-12-2017 09:31 AM

Looks a nice place to go and chill mate. Great pics. I'm guessing it wasn't in London?

https://assets.londonist.com/uploads...titled-1_1.jpg

https://www.hiddeneurope-magazine.eu/142_stP_hotel.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NE5xXkGpAh...ef634844_b.jpg

This is just glorious.

Lisnaholic 10-12-2017 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1882153)
Looks a nice place to go and chill mate. Great pics. I'm guessing it wasn't in London?

^ Thanks, MLM. The pics, like the place, had a kind of dated charm about them. Yep, it was a town about 35 miles from London.

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This is just glorious.
:thumb: Yes, beautiful pictures of an absolutely wonderful building. Those turrets, those towers, the arches over the windows! I know we're not supposed to eat or sleep with a building, but if we could, I'd choose St.Pancras.

Cuthbert 10-12-2017 12:09 PM

It's a fantastic building. I love how imposing it is. I'm glad it's still there, not that I'm saying it'll ever be demolished but everything should be done to protect buildings such as this. When I think of the architecture lost during the war and then bad planning after that, it makes me so annoyed.

Gone:

http://lostbritain.uk/wp-content/upl...956c0edf_b.jpg

It was replaced by this :o: :

http://i1.birminghammail.co.uk/news/...%20Library.jpg

That's gone as well now thank fuck, but if the architect was still alive I would like to ask him what was going through his head when he thought this was a good idea.

Cuthbert 11-23-2017 11:53 PM

The Harrods store in London is just stunning.

https://rockhoppa.co.uk/wp-content/u...s-1030x579.jpg

https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/harr...n-48818894.jpg

:clap:

Cuthbert 11-24-2017 12:17 AM

Not expecting everyone to like this one but, one of my favourites, Ibrox in Glasgow home of Rangers FC:

https://footballtripper.com/wp-conte...ox-stadium.jpg

https://i2-prod.dailyrecord.co.uk/in...JS30434553.jpg

http://www.football-stadiums.co.uk/i...lightbox/j.jpg

https://19179-presscdn-0-30-pagely.n...ox-900x520.jpg

It needs some work doing but on the whole I think it's excellent and is a well balanced stadium, especially compared to other builds from the same era.

The main stand was based on the Trinity Road stand I mentioned in post #44, it was the same architect who designed both (Archibald Leitch, also worked on many other grounds around the country including Highbury, Old Trafford, Anfield and many others), but Rangers were able to redevelop it without destroying the main facade and added a roof to theirs.

I really like this one.

Yac 11-24-2017 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1881783)

It must be depressing enough to be a worker drone in Eastern Europe, but you really don't need architecture that throws that fact in your face every day. Here are some housing blocks in Zagreb: -

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/732/32...9b5580a8_z.jpg
http://www.thebohemianblog.com/wp-co...i-Zagreb-3.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/21/e9/10/z177...alet--ale-.jpg
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/3f/98/14/z215...rzy-ul--Ko.jpg

These don't have to be depressing, but they need to be repainted and taken care of. Which includes also the surroundings. In Poznań where I live these ugly "commie blocks" are surrounded by a lot of green, almost like they were constructed in the middle of a park.. and it works. Sort of. Well, you don't want to kill yourself at least. Not because of the buildings. :D

Lisnaholic 11-27-2017 06:06 AM

Wow! I'm being quoted by Yac! This is a total honour. I don't suppose any of us know about the architecture of Poland, so I hope you'll post us some more pics.

And your photos are very interesting; they show how, with a little bit of paint, vegetation and imagination, our cities could look so much better, which in all seriousness, can really lift peoples' spirits. There is also an immediate bonus, in the UK at least, of reduced vandalism if people are given a reason to be proud of where they live. I particularly liked the artwork in your first photo, Yac, with it's discreet pattern and Dali-style animal: compared to the annonymous flats of Zagreb, how much nicer to be able to say, "My flat is the one above the antlers." (Of course not so cool for the guy who has to say, "Yeah, I live in the moose's butt.")


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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1897721)

^ I've never seen Ibrox Park, but you're right about the symmetry, etc. I am particularly impressed with the curved stair towers that've been added on; a pleasing shape, clearly from a different era, but blending into the original design. That's not an easy thing to get right.

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The main stand was based on the Trinity Road stand I mentioned in post #44, it was the same architect who designed both (Archibald Leitch, also worked on many other grounds around the country including Highbury, Old Trafford, Anfield and many others), but Rangers were able to redevelop it without destroying the main facade and added a roof to theirs.
^ You are very well informed, MLM. I think you have given the little-known Archibald Leitch the honour of being the first architect to get his own personal name check in this thread!

Yac 11-27-2017 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1898440)
Wow! I'm being quoted by Yac! This is a total honour. I don't suppose any of us know about the architecture of Poland, so I hope you'll post us some more pics.

And your photos are very interesting; they show how, with a little bit of paint, vegetation and imagination, our cities could look so much better, which in all seriousness, can really lift peoples' spirits. There is also an immediate bonus, in the UK at least, of reduced vandalism if people are given a reason to be proud of where they live. I particularly liked the artwork in your first photo, Yac, with it's discreet pattern and Dali-style animal: compared to the annonymous flats of Zagreb, how much nicer to be able to say, "My flat is the one above the antlers." (Of course not so cool for the guy who has to say, "Yeah, I live in the moose's butt.")



^ I've never seen Ibrox Park, but you're right about the symmetry, etc. I am particularly impressed with the curved stair towers that've been added on; a pleasing shape, clearly from a different era, but blending into the original design. That's not an easy thing to get right.



^ You are very well informed, MLM. I think you have given the little-known Archibald Leitch the honour of being the first architect to get his own personal name check in this thread!

:D Wut. I don't know about it being an honor ;) But I can share some info on our architecture ;)
There's a lot of "commie blocks" in Poland, and I mean A LOT. The country was almost literally razed to the ground during ww2, there were millions of homeless people after that, so something needed to be done.
Most were created using prefabricated concrete elements and looked buttugly from the start. A couple of years ago everybody was sure these building will start collapsing, many are 50+ years old and "they were never designed to last this long"... People were doing their best to move away.
Now ? Now that cities started actually caring about the way they look, now that they started renovating these buildings along with the surroundings, it doesn't look half bad. The fact that steel reinforced concrete, when properly maintained, turns out to have amazing longevity doesn't hurt either ;)
Here's some examples of what is being done to these buildings, it's still not as common as I'd like, but if they don't get a mural, they at least get proper insulation and a new paintjob, so it's no longer an eyesore. I'll put these photos inside a spoiler tag as some are quite big.


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