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DianneW 12-25-2021 03:29 AM

https://www.tor.com/2019/06/11/the-g...yth-not-a-myth

https://i1.wp.com/www.tor.com/wp-con...lity=100&ssl=1
I enjoyed reading about it myself..
...The internet is far and beyond what I ever believed it to be. I get to see and learn all kinds of things , that gives you a good outlook and being able to converse that little but better than when I was much younger.
some of the link I would think is in my first post but still interesting to read and I think the good comes out of any tree. It is life giving.
Cheers for now...Have a good Xmas...Roast Lamb for us this evening.
Husband got a new speed boat..lucky sod...
ok it is like this one...:love:

he had the yellow one a few years now and electronically it's Kuput...

Been in that pub many times..Sevenoaks...then we were all made aware of drinking and driving, that altered things...

Lisnaholic 12-27-2021 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DianneW (Post 2195086)
I enjoyed reading about it myself..
...The internet is far and beyond what I ever believed it to be. I get to see and learn all kinds of things , that gives you a good outlook and being able to converse that little but better than when I was much younger.
some of the link I would think is in my first post but still interesting to read and I think the good comes out of any tree. It is life giving.

You sound like my brother-in-law, who spends ages roaming around wikipedia as one article suggests to him the next....

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Been in that pub many times..Sevenoaks...then we were all made aware of drinking and driving, that altered things...
I didn't mean to be mysterious, but I don't like to put too many personal identifiers in my posts. That pub is in Wandsworth, so you must be thinking of one of the other hundreds of Green Man pubs in and around London. Perhaps you were too drunk at the time to notice how it looked ;)
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Anyone who has watched the Netflix series, Locke & Key, will recognize this mansion in Massachusetts immediately:_


But sadly, it's not real and it's not in Massachusetts:-

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While Keyhouse would undoubtedly make a cool place to visit, it’s as fictional as the town it’s located in. Unfortunately, the mansion isn’t one physical place as it appears. The outside shots are mostly fabricated, while the various rooms seen inside of the Locke family’s home make up a detailed set. As for the series’ filming location, Locke & Key shoots in Toronto, Canada. That means the lush backdrops viewers enjoy aren’t actually from Massachusetts — despite the show being set there.

Frownland 12-27-2021 07:00 PM

Yet another reason to avoid Massachusetts.

Lisnaholic 12-28-2021 09:24 AM

^ Well, keep that attitude to yourself when you meet Jonathan Richman, ok?


DianneW 12-30-2021 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 2195040)
Thanks for putting together such an interesting post, Dianne! I love the photos of the faces carved in wood. Back in the old days people built with such inventiveness and detail it's hard to believe. How many hours work, how much skill, is there in just one of those faces?!
I've heard about the ancient origins of the Green Man before, but was surprised to see that there are traces of the same guy in Europe too.

Not the most spectacular Green Man pub, but it does have the honour of being a pub that I used to drink in on a regular basis:-

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...qeOOg&usqp=CAU

It is on a heath with a Roman Camp about half a mile a way. The heath is an area of relatively high, relatively dry ground on the edge of London and today it has a big roundabout (plus underpass) where two A-roads meet. My guess is that it has always been an area to meet; for ancient Green Man celebrations, for the Romans, for medieval travellers, and for latter-day pub goers like myself, cavorting naked at midnight under the watchful eyes of The Green Man, god of procreation.

well it is White....:pssst:

https://cdn.businessyab.com/assets/u..._man_89832.jpg

Lisnaholic 12-31-2021 06:27 AM

^ What a beautiful looking pub! Very understandable that you should get the two principle white buildings confused.

By the way, I wonder if you have any special tip about how you find such nice big pictures to post?
I usually go to Google: "images of...." but all the best pictures are locked; the only ones I can copy are the meagre-sized ones I have been posting for some time. :(

DianneW 12-31-2021 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 2195590)
^ What a beautiful looking pub! Very understandable that you should get the two principle white buildings confused.

By the way, I wonder if you have any special tip about how you find such nice big pictures to post?
I usually go to Google: "images of...." but all the best pictures are locked; the only ones I can copy are the meagre-sized ones I have been posting for some time. :(

I had not thought that my pics where bigger than yours....
take this as a try out..
link I had open to save the photo..on this site of course you have to save online...
so have, and this is the link I used
https://www.thelocal.fr/20171218/nin...hadnt-heard-of

here is the photo first saved it in my documents then downloaded to the online photo programme I use...imgBB
then open it in full and post from the oblong boxed mountain above..

https://i.ibb.co/Jv74cwq/unusal-castles.jpg
now that is small I see..try it with the same one and see how your's comes out..if you wish...
this is the same one but done a basic edit and doubled the size
https://i.ibb.co/448CsKm/unusal-castles.jpg
doubled it again....OMG...

https://i.ibb.co/hmryD3t/unusal-castles.jpg

Lisnaholic 12-31-2021 09:23 AM

Thanks Dianne! I hope you and others will bear with me as I try things out here. This is my result for "copy address of image":

https://www.thelocal.fr/wp-content/u...3052583891.jpg

Yep, that's not bad. I think what I should do is go to original source websites rather than to "Google Images of..". They seem to have put most of their stuff under some copyright/license restriction.

Lisnaholic 12-31-2021 09:53 AM

https://bocadolobo.com/blog/wp-conte...yev-Center.jpg

Zaha Hadid is an architect with a huge international reputation. Good for her to have done so well (as an Iraqi woman) in a profession dominated by guys. She has been dubbed “The Queen of The Curve” because here and elsewhere, she has done for building materials what Salvador Dali did for watches: melted them.

Lisnaholic 12-31-2021 10:13 AM

Spectacular stand-alone buildings like the above are great for making your name as an architect, but in European cities, already chockablock with architectural gems, I like the fitting-in style of design which has the fancy name of "Contextualism". If ever a single building defined this approach, it's this one:-

https://blog.buildllc.com/wp-content...er-Roecker.jpg

It's modern, but it works as a perfect compliment to what's there already. Together, each building looks better than they would've done on their own. Instead of slap-in-the-face architecture, this is well-mannered architecture that respects, even enhances, the past.

DianneW 12-31-2021 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 2195640)
https://bocadolobo.com/blog/wp-conte...yev-Center.jpg

Zaha Hadid is an architect with a huge international reputation. Good for her to have done so well (as an Iraqi woman) in a profession dominated by guys. She has been dubbed “The Queen of The Curve” because here and elsewhere, she has done for building materials what Salvador Dali did for watches: melted them.

Something between a Plane and BIG Fish in my mind....:laughing:
That is certainly huge and impressive, not sure it would look good in my commune though..mostly Ancient...
https://www.communes.com/images/thum...ais_284689.jpg

This picture was not saved to anything but straight off the web page....
The view is almost the same today..A couple of the old houses have caravans in the gardens to live in whilst they are renovating there really cheap properties they purchased...Sauze Vaussis is 5 minutes from our commune..really it would be classed as a village these days.
The Street to the front right had at one time shops all along it..I arrived and there where none until you get to the far right corner, a Hairdressers and the other side there are several shops, then around to the main square Banks, Bars, Post Office and a Co-op shop that is not too bad for a stand alone shop with prices...Super U is further on and takes all the trade like super markets do in England..

DianneW 12-31-2021 11:52 AM

Cannot remember if I done an item on Pigeonneir Houses
Pigeon Houses in France | Aussie in France
Some are quite elaborate.



https://i.ibb.co/WxbmmFS/pigeon-house.jpg
This one is very close to Sauze Vaussais near to where I live...


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...?1640974234523
Finale one a mobile one during the World War 1

DianneW 12-31-2021 11:54 AM

:bowdown:

Lisnaholic 01-11-2022 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DianneW (Post 2195650)
Something between a Plane and BIG Fish in my mind....:laughing:

Those images didn't occur to me, Dianne - I thought (right-hand side of building) of a woman in a headscarf. Most dramatic modern buildings get a nickname, don't they? In London they have "The Gerkin" and "The Walkie-Talkie". I'd say that it's a credit to Zaha Hadid's design that we can't decide what nickname to give it. Well done, ZH :clap:

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Originally Posted by DianneW (Post 2195660)
Cannot remember if I done an item on Pigeonneir Houses
Pigeon Houses in France | Aussie in France
Some are quite elaborate.
https://i.ibb.co/WxbmmFS/pigeon-house.jpg
This one is very close to Sauze Vaussais near to where I live...

That's a great building! Very unusual looking, even though the geometry isn't that complicated. I wonder if the guy who designed Mexico City's "Monument to the Revolution" visited your bird-house first:-

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...cSwBQ&usqp=CAU

Frankly, of the two, I prefer the bird-house.
I also liked your photo of the bus, especially the pigeon on the guy's head! Strange concept, strange vehicle.
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Prompted by a conversation with Batlord about how attractive bare brick can be, I though about houses like this that you can often see in England:-

https://rp-prod-wordpress-b-content....dhousefull.jpg

It's an object lesson in how to ruin a whole terrace of houses by not honouring the original material. The house owner clearly never absorbed the message of Bertrand Russell's comment on educating children: "You can't turn a cabbage into a rose, but you can turn it into a good cabbage."

Lisnaholic 01-30-2022 07:54 AM

Greystone Park Psychiatric Hospital in New Jersey, opened in 1876, demolished in 2015. Even the main entrance block (the Kirkbride Building) with its many columns has gone, thanks to:-
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Governor Chris Christie announced that the state was not considering a bid by Alma Realty to restore the property at no cost to the state. Despite considerable public opposition and open protest, the main Kirkbride building was demolished.
...which makes this footage one of the best ways to see this complex of buildings. (According to wiki, "the base of this building was the alleged largest continuous foundation in the United States from the time it was built until it was surpassed by the Pentagon in 1943", which is admittedly grasping at straws to get yourself into the record books.)



At its peak it housed over 7,000 patients - the most famous being Woody Guthrie who was there for 6 years. The Guthrie family put BDylan on the Permitted Visitors list, and the 19-year old Bob became a regular visitor and friend to Woody during his declining years.

The US has never fought off an invasive war on its own territory, so it's lucky to have governors like Christie who are helping to destroy the USA's heritage without the inconvenience of an invading army.

rubber soul 01-30-2022 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 2198063)
The US has never fought off an invasive war on its own territory, so it's lucky to have governors like Christie who are helping to destroy the USA's heritage without the inconvenience of an invading army.

Careful, Lisna. You might get someone to go, "Oh, yeah, what about the commies who are destroying American heritage by taking down Confederate statues?"

Lisnaholic 01-30-2022 07:34 PM

^ HaHa! There was a debate about Confederate statues here a few years back. At first I took the position that "They're history, they should be left in place," but Janzoon convinced me otherwise, explaining that they celebrate an oppression that many Americans find offensive. I think many have now been transferred to museums where their presence is less "in your face".

Tristan_Geoff 01-30-2022 07:35 PM

Isn't it a little early in the morning to be talking about gothic architecture?

Lisnaholic 01-30-2022 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tristan_Geoff (Post 2198120)
Isn't it a little early in the morning to be talking about gothic architecture?

:laughing: Anytime is the right time for gothic architecture, Tristan!!

Tristan_Geoff 01-30-2022 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 2198124)
:laughing: Anytime is the right time for gothic architecture, Tristan!!


rubber soul 01-31-2022 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 2198119)
^ HaHa! There was a debate about Confederate statues here a few years back. At first I took the position that "They're history, they should be left in place," but Janzoon convinced me otherwise, explaining that they celebrate an oppression that many Americans find offensive. I think many have now been transferred to museums where their presence is less "in your face".

We had a controversy about it here in Baltimore too and I was initially on the fence about it as well. I think the George Floyd incident really changed a lot of minds in the US though. Yes, most of the statues have either have been sent, or are being sent, to museums, or, in a few cases, destroyed.

Lisnaholic 01-31-2022 07:32 AM

Yes, there has been more awareness about these old statues - in England as well.

Unfortunately, removing a statue does what? It reduces the visually interesting stuff in civic spaces. Completely unrealistic, but I would like to see the controversy about statues fixed like this: for every slave-owner mounted on a horse, the authorities should commission and build an opposing statue on the theme of "the triumph of the common man". That would give a moral balance to civic spaces, plus a history lesson, which could serve as a brief respite from what city centres are usually devoted to: cars and commerce.
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Thanks for posting the context of your remark, Tristan. As you might imagine, I would never have got the reference myself! Unluckily for you, you have inspired me to post a child's guide to the wonders of gothic:-


adidasss 02-06-2022 08:10 AM

https://gulfbusiness.com/wp-content/...1233733212.jpg

The above is the new Museum of the future, opening at the end of the month in Dubai as the latest "architectural wonder" which has people jizzing their pants but I find it rather garish. :/

Lisnaholic 02-07-2022 07:45 AM

Wow! That is certainly eye-catching isn't it? I don't like it either: it's too big and too dramatic. It also breaks a cardinal rule of architecture, and of nature: form follows function. That's a good rule, imo, because it means that what you see indicates what it does: a leaf is typically thin and broad to catch sunlight, a trunk is a solid cylinder to act as a support.
Who can guess what is going on inside this building? ...but I suspect there are a lot of awkward, under-used spaces, especially in the bit on the left-hand side that is catching the sunlight in your photo.

Plankton 02-07-2022 07:48 AM

I'd love to see the floor plans for that.

Lisnaholic 02-07-2022 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Plankton (Post 2199078)
I'd love to see the floor plans for that.

:laughing: Likewise the steelwork details as the structure negotiates those curves! I suppose, as a museum "..of The Future" it has some excuse for its extravagant look though.

No secret that I personally prefer more traditional architecture, so I'm posting a link to some photos of beautiful European castles:-

https://edition.cnn.com/style/articl...les/index.html

My favourite: photo #3 in the short slide-show

Plankton 02-07-2022 08:23 AM

Walp... ask and ye shall receive:

https://lusive.com/lusivelife/post/d....AZgWlxOO.dpbs

From just a quick perusal, it appears the design was visualized using Trimbles Tekla structural analysis software.

https://www.tekla.com/us/resources/r...-engineering-2

Thats some engineering flex right there.

Lisnaholic 02-07-2022 09:56 AM

Thanks Plankton! I think those two links together have made me change my mind about this building. Hats off to any team that can create something so complex.

http://lusive.com/images/uploads/content/Killa0.png

From this viewpoint it looks a lot better, I think.
Did you notice that among the skyscrapers on the right, there's one that turns into Big Ben at the top? Oi, Dubai! 'ands off me cultural icon!!

Plankton 02-07-2022 10:03 AM

Looks like thats Al Yaqoub Tower, inspired by the original:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Yaqoub_Tower

adidasss 02-07-2022 10:08 AM

That angle is much better Lisna because you can see one of my favorite towers in the UAE just behind it, the Emirates towers, which are the exact opposite of that musem in terms of style and elegance...

The Batlord 02-07-2022 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Plankton (Post 2199084)
Walp... ask and ye shall receive:

https://lusive.com/lusivelife/post/d....AZgWlxOO.dpbs

From just a quick perusal, it appears the design was visualized using Trimbles Tekla structural analysis software.

https://www.tekla.com/us/resources/r...-engineering-2

Thats some engineering flex right there.

I might get into NFTs for a chance to buy the first castle.

Plankton 02-07-2022 11:53 AM

Not if I do it first.

music_collector 09-11-2022 08:36 PM

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The above is the new Museum of the future, opening at the end of the month in Dubai as the latest "architectural wonder" which has people ****ing their pants but I find it rather garish. :/
One ring, to rule them all!

Plankton 01-10-2023 07:09 PM

A bit of a history lesson in all things Wright:

https://vimeo.com/398144350

Lisnaholic 04-03-2023 09:08 AM

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That's a great finished product, isn't it? I've never been to NY, but I get the feeling that any green, waterfront breathing space must be very welcome in that bustling city.
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A million miles away in time and context is this building:-

https://media.istockphoto.com/id/128...GoWzGz5J_yEpU=.....https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...3hz-U&usqp=CAU

Very simple but slightly unusual too. I like how the steps come down, but the walls flanking them don't: they stay level and present us with two spheres, which constitute the only ornamentation in sight. It looks attractive enough in the snow and winter sunlight, but in the the second photo, the building has a mildly sinister feel - and that's appropriate, because it is in fact the studio of the famous artist Edvard Munch. Suddenly, the building looks exactly like one of the washed-out backgrounds in his paintings.

Janszoon 04-03-2023 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 2231178)
That's a great finished product, isn't it? I've never been to NY, but I get the feeling that any green, waterfront breathing space must be very welcome in that bustling city.
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A million miles away in time and context is this building:-

https://media.istockphoto.com/id/128...GoWzGz5J_yEpU=.....https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...3hz-U&usqp=CAU

Very simple but slightly unusual too. I like how the steps come down, but the walls flanking them don't: they stay level and present us with two spheres, which constitute the only ornamentation in sight. It looks attractive enough in the snow and winter sunlight, but in the the second photo, the building has a mildly sinister feel - and that's appropriate, because it is in fact the studio of the famous artist Edvard Munch. Suddenly, the building looks exactly like one of the washed-out backgrounds in his paintings.

I feel like those tiny windows make it look like some kind of old utility building or something.

Danzaburou 04-04-2023 11:49 AM

My favourite building around here is prolly
https://dynamic-media-cdn.tripadviso...=1200&h=-1&s=1
town hall

I also love Nymphenburger Castle
https://www.voucherwonderland.com/re...ymphenburg.jpg

Danzaburou 04-04-2023 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 2195644)
Spectacular stand-alone buildings like the above are great for making your name as an architect, but in European cities, already chockablock with architectural gems, I like the fitting-in style of design which has the fancy name of "Contextualism". If ever a single building defined this approach, it's this one:-

https://blog.buildllc.com/wp-content...er-Roecker.jpg

It's modern, but it works as a perfect compliment to what's there already. Together, each building looks better than they would've done on their own. Instead of slap-in-the-face architecture, this is well-mannered architecture that respects, even enhances, the past.

Well we have much older buildings than American architects can ever dream to work with. For American architects, buildings from 200 years ago are often historic, that's nothing for Europeans. We have buildings the freakin Romans built. Everywhere.
These modern influences often are installed when a building, or part of a building is damaged, but many if not most cities try to restore buildings to their former appearance. Especially here in the south of Germany we would not like something like that. Our cities are more like


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9TFKw99BPo

We really love the ancient vibe and try to keep our cities looking old.

edit: even in much larger cities in the south the city core is usually entirely preserved
take Munich as an example which has many modern buildings in its Speckgürtel,
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8b/9f...c15d794e73.jpg
but the city core looks like this
https://live.staticflickr.com/5717/2...058d46ae_b.jpg

Lisnaholic 04-04-2023 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 2231183)
I feel like those tiny windows make it look like some kind of old utility building or something.

Yep, that's what it made me think of too, Janzsoon!
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Thanks for all the building photos, Danza :thumb:

I liked the gothic-style town hall (more than Nymphenburger Castle tbh), and if you like that style too, you can see some other similar buildings right near the start of this thread.

Schwäbisch Hall looks wonderful, and it's true, all the newer houses follow very carefully the style of the older ones. The giant coins stuck in the road were a nice surprise too.

As for the BMW factory, those towers reminded me of part of a toy rocket my son once had, but something tells me that, as a building, it looks more attractive in your photo than it might in real life.
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I was once lucky enough to stay in Lübeck, which is also a well-preserved German town. On the Baltic coast, it has had to accomodate modern roads more than Schwäbisch, I think:-

https://www.ln-online.de/resizer/eNn...O4KYPWUQ2U.jpg

Janszoon 04-04-2023 05:10 PM

I love that gate in the lower left!


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