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Old 01-21-2018, 11:39 AM   #351 (permalink)
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Old 01-21-2018, 11:47 AM   #352 (permalink)
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Well VAT would be set by the government of the country you're in, wouldn't it? It doesn't vary by seller or even vendor.
No but it's mandatory for sellers (in general) due to their terms of service.

Rate of VAT may vary but it's still present.
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No but it's mandatory for sellers (in general) due to their terms of service.
My point exactly. So no matter who you sell through you have to pay the same amount of VAT, which means complaining about the amount of VAT you had to pay using Ebay is pointless: you would have had to pay that amount no matter what.
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My point exactly. So no matter who you sell through you have to pay the same amount of VAT, which means complaining about the amount of VAT you had to pay using Ebay is pointless: you would have had to pay that amount no matter what.
I wasn't complaining about it, I was just using it as an example of why people may want to consider using a different site with a lower rate of sellers VAT if they don't have to money for it.

Like Gumtree for example.

Ebay is the best personal selling site you can use but the price you pay is the higher rate of VAT on your listings.
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I wasn't complaining about it, I was just using it as an example of why people may want to consider using a different site with a lower rate of sellers VAT if they don't have to money for it.

Like Gumtree for example.

Ebay is the best personal selling site you can use but the price you pay is the higher rate of VAT on your listings.
Right, I don't understand that. The VAT rate for a country is set. How can you pay more/less if you use a different vendor? They can only charge you what the official VAT rate is, otherwise they're breaking the law, no? VAT goes to the government, and is set by them. It isn't flexible. So Ebay, Gumtree, DoneDeal, whoever, should all be charging the same rate of VAT, pursuant to the country you live in. Am I missing something here?
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Right, I don't understand that. The VAT rate for a country is set. How can you pay more/less if you use a different vendor?
In my experience the rate of VAT when selling personally (including package and posting) on Ebay is set according to the value of what your selling.

For instance;

LDS PA: I paid around £45 in VAT
Peavey Dual 400watt PA: I paid just over £60 internationally in VAT

The added amount is most likely dependent on international postage, can't remember what the cost attributed to on my statement though.
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In my experience the rate of VAT when selling personally (including package and posting) on Ebay is set according to the value of what your selling.

For instance;

LDS PA: I paid around £45 in VAT
Peavey Dual 400watt PA: I paid just over £60 internationally in VAT

The added amount is most likely dependent on international postage, can't remember what the cost attributed to on my statement though.
No that's absolutely not how it works. I worked for thirty years almost in a freight firm and had to calculate VAt all the time. The VAT rate is set. If you are importing into the country, it's that country's rate - the figure is calculated on what they call the CIF charge (Carriage, Insurance and Freight) which takes into account the freight cost to get it to your country or the FOB (Freight On Board) which doesn't. In that case, freight has to be added. If you're exporting, then it's based on that country's import VAT. There is no gray area here. You pay one rate of VAT. That's it. Neither Ebay nor anyone else has any right to charge you anything other than the current rate of VAT for your country. If they did, you should query it.

Edit: the figure can vary, depending on them, but the RATE MUST be the same. Always. No exceptions. Some countries have different rates of VAT (like, we have a lower one on children's clothes) but it HAS to be ONE of those. They can't make it up based on arbitrary rules.
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Some countries have different rates of VAT
That's must be what caused the different rates of VAT I had to pay then considering I was selling internationally and the one thing I sold and posted within the country had 20% rate postage fee.
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