When did the concept of death really, truly, sink in?

Trollheart · 06-15-2017, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Has it ever occurred to you that you're so self-righteous you can't even smell your own ****?

If it had, he wouldn't be, would he? Catch 22.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 06-15-2017, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Nobody will understand this unless they have a pet. It's like losing a family member. It really is.

Really? I love animals and that, but na.

OccultHawk · 06-15-2017, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

OK I get it. I wasn't sure. Personally, I'm 54 and want to live to be 154, as long as I have all my faculties. I'm not fixing to die any time soon. Plus, I have more than my own selfish concerns to consider.

The word "selfish" hints that you might getting that feeling, too. Acceptance isn't at all the same as being suicidal.

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One of the guys, sent in after me to see what was wrong, asked was I ok and I told him. The audible contempt in his voice when he realised I was crying over a pet really angered me: it was like he was saying “Oh I thought it was something important.”

Yeah. That's how people are. If they wouldn't feel it they don't think you should either. I've heard it said that losing a dog hurts some people more than losing a parent. I can't tell them what they're feeling.

OccultHawk · 06-15-2017, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey

Really? I love animals and that, but na.

For some people it is, though. You're not them.

The Batlord · 06-15-2017, 04:32 PM

The pet thing has always been weird for me. When I was a little kid I'd cry pretty hard when a pet died, and my mom is a pet collector so there were plenty of pets to cry over, from cats to goldfish to hamsters to dogs. Then I got older and more jaded about **** in general and for years I wouldn't even get teary eyed when a pet died. Then a couple years ago this cat who'd really bonded with me died and I was just the biggest, dribbliest, sobbiest wreck. I think it's actually been a good thing though, cause even though I've had countless pets die, there's always been a new one. Not that they replace the first pet, but the first pet had its own special, unique place in my life, but even if that place was now empty that didn't mean that pet #2 wouldn't find their own place in my life that would eventually feel like a necessary component to my existence. Life just goes on and brings new things that don't diminish the old things, and with that comes a change to the feeling of life itself.

Thelonious Monkey · 06-15-2017, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

The pet thing has always been weird for me. When I was a little kid I'd cry pretty hard when a pet died, and my mom is a pet collector so there were plenty of pets to cry over, from cats to goldfish to hamsters to dogs. Then I got older and more jaded about **** in general and for years I wouldn't even get teary eyed when a pet died. Then a couple years ago this cat who'd really bonded with me died and I was just the biggest, dribbliest, sobbiest wreck. I think it's actually been a good thing though, cause even though I've had countless pets die, there's always been a new one. Not that they replace the first pet, but the first pet had its own special, unique place in my life, but even if that place was now empty that didn't mean that pet #2 wouldn't find their own place in my life that would eventually feel like a necessary component to my existence. Life just goes on and brings new things that don't diminish the old things, and with that comes a change to the feeling of life itself.

I've had one pet in my life that we had to put to sleep but I was so young at the time I hadn't really bonded with the dog much and didn't feel much empathy. But soon after, we got 2 related dogs and I've pretty much had them since I started remembering most things. I love my dogs, more so one over the other. But there's a major bond and sometimes it keeps me up at night wondering when they might die and how heartbroken I would be. I'd had special real bonding times with them my whole life and my life would just feel weird without them. Sucks because they're getting into that old age now. Those signs are there like infections and episodes and fits. All these problems are not getting much better, although not much worse yet. But it's inevitable, and I dread the day it happens, so I try to comfort them as much as possible and give them the best last days I can give them. This thread is depressing.

OccultHawk · 06-15-2017, 05:11 PM

https://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/wel...eyes/?referer=

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Japanese researchers found that dogs who trained a long gaze on their owners had elevated levels of oxytocin, a hormone produced in the brain that is associated with nurturing and attachment, similar to the feel-good feedback that bolsters bonding between parent and child. After receiving those long gazes, the owners’ levels of oxytocin increased, too.

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He continued: “There is a possibility that dogs cleverly and unknowingly utilized a natural system meant for bonding a parent with his or her child.”

djchameleon · 06-15-2017, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Even Trump?
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Yes even Trump. Humans over animals every single time.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 06-15-2017, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

Yes even Trump. Humans over animals every single time.

Agreed mate.

OccultHawk · 06-15-2017, 05:20 PM

I've heard that. You treat your dog better than you treat people. Damn straight. It's not all dogs. I don't give a **** about someone else's dog. Dogs are the only real ride or die homies you'll ever have. I'm inclined to return the sentiment.

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