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Old 06-16-2017, 05:52 PM   #171 (permalink)
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The way you react says outrage. You didn't have to say it. I am not telling you not to be offended. I am just saying maybe you can take a step back and realize that people experience grief in different ways.
Nah, believe me, if I was outraged you'd know it. I'm being reasonable here.
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I agree but those that feel the opposite are the types that go on and on about how much their mom ****ing sucks and they hate them. The stereotypical white angry teen that is like I wish you were dead mom!
I suppose it depends on how you treat your pet. If you (and I'm not saying MLM did or does) get a dog and keep them out the back garden, taking them for a walk and feeding them, maybe (maybe) it isn't such a big thing when they pass away. If, like me, your pets have always lived inside, are lavished with attention and love, and mean an awful lot to you - if they, in essence, become part of the family - then you will miss them terribly when they have to be put down or die suddenly.

It's like I always say when people ask me who lives in my house: Just me and my sister and our three cats.

Also, I loved my mother like you wouldn't believe, hate my father with good reason, and none of that plays into how or why I love all my pets, current and former.
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Old 06-16-2017, 06:00 PM   #172 (permalink)
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As I was about to be put under for brain surgery (AVM) I was aware that there was a chance that I would not survive the procedure, due in no small part to the fact that I had to sign paperwork stating that I was aware of the risk.
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Old 06-16-2017, 06:05 PM   #173 (permalink)
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As I was about to be put under for brain surgery (AVM) I was aware that there was a chance that I would not survive the procedure, due in no small part to the fact that I had to sign paperwork stating that I was aware of the risk.
We're all glad you pulled through.
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Old 06-16-2017, 06:25 PM   #174 (permalink)
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That contradicts evolution. If certain things were "meant to" be used as resources for other things you would most likely see them evolve to produce more off soring and not improve their survivability against natural predators.
Animals on the food chain do exactly that though. If they always only evolved for survivability then predators up the animal chain would slowly die off from not being able to consume enough food to survive.

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Nah, believe me, if I was outraged you'd know it. I'm being reasonable here.

I suppose it depends on how you treat your pet. If you (and I'm not saying MLM did or does) get a dog and keep them out the back garden, taking them for a walk and feeding them, maybe (maybe) it isn't such a big thing when they pass away. If, like me, your pets have always lived inside, are lavished with attention and love, and mean an awful lot to you - if they, in essence, become part of the family - then you will miss them terribly when they have to be put down or die suddenly.

It's like I always say when people ask me who lives in my house: Just me and my sister and our three cats.

Also, I loved my mother like you wouldn't believe, hate my father with good reason, and none of that plays into how or why I love all my pets, current and former.
Maybe you missed something along the way in this discussion. I always treat my pets well. I do miss them when they pass but if I had to choose between saving a random dog on the side of the road vs. a human being. I would go for the human every single time. I have no attachment to some random dog and this decision has no effect on how I treat my pets. My argument is that people care more about animals in general than they do humans. I was talking about their personal pets. The reason most people do is because they feel like the human did it to themselves and they need to take personal responsibility to get themselves out of it instead of lending a helping hand when the person is down and out.
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Animals on the food chain do exactly that though. If they always only evolved for survivability then predators up the animal chain would slowly die off from not being able to consume enough food to survive.
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No DJ the predators evolve to catch the prey that evolves. And the things that can't or dont evolve die off.

Ecological principles 101.

Modern humans are the only exception im aware of.
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I suppose it depends on how you treat your pet. If you (and I'm not saying MLM did or does) get a dog and keep them out the back garden, taking them for a walk and feeding them, maybe (maybe) it isn't such a big thing when they pass away. If, like me, your pets have always lived inside, are lavished with attention and love, and mean an awful lot to you - if they, in essence, become part of the family - then you will miss them terribly when they have to be put down or die suddenly.
I'm a good pet owner, check my posts in the pet pic thread.

Family > pets though.
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Old 06-17-2017, 04:51 AM   #178 (permalink)
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Family > pets though.
If done right:

Family = Pets.

Last two times I've balled like a baby was while putting a pet down.
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No DJ the predators evolve to catch the prey that evolves. And the things that can't or dont evolve die off.

Ecological principles 101.

Modern humans are the only exception im aware of.
So what is your point/argument?
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Resources were meant to be used up and carbon into the atmosphere is something that can be controlled regardless of the number of people that are around. So no, it is still a weak argument.
Meant to be used up? That sounds like a religious argument. There is no intrinsic purpose to "resources", or existence as far as we can tell.

So maybe its not a weak argument?
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