When did the concept of death really, truly, sink in?

**Frownland** · 06-16-2017, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey

Yeah course hasn't everyone? I have a cat now and I had a dog who died when he was about 16/17 and I was 19 so knew it all my life. A great pet, and yeah I was upset. But it's a pet. It's not like losing a family member unless you aren't close to your family or we are talking some distant relative you don't even speak to.

IMO of course.

I don't like any of my family members beyond my sister and have had nothing but love for my dogs, so I guess you could say that it's worse than losing a family member.

djchameleon · 06-16-2017, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Never said I was outraged. Quit putting words in my mouth. I said I was offended. I am. That isn't going to change just because you or anyone else tells me to. But I'm not outraged, and I never said I was. You can be offended at something without being outraged by it.

The way you react says outrage. You didn't have to say it. I am not telling you not to be offended. I am just saying maybe you can take a step back and realize that people experience grief in different ways.

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey

Yeah course hasn't everyone? I have a cat now and I had a dog who died when he was about 16/17 and I was 19 so knew it all my life. A great pet, and yeah I was upset. But it's a pet. It's not like losing a family member unless you aren't close to your family or we are talking some distant relative you don't even speak to.

IMO of course.

I agree but those that feel the opposite are the types that go on and on about how much their mom ****ing sucks and they hate them. The stereotypical white angry teen that is like I wish you were dead mom!

~~Cuthbert~~ · 06-16-2017, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

I agree but those that feel the opposite are the types that go on and on about how much their mom ****ing sucks and they hate them. The stereotypical white angry teen that is like I wish you were dead mom!

I was going to say something similar to this for the bants. It's true imo.

**Frownland** · 06-16-2017, 03:10 PM

You say that now, but imagine if I was your dad.

OccultHawk · 06-16-2017, 04:48 PM

Yeah

That's basically the Dark Mountain argument.

DwnWthVwls · 06-16-2017, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

Resources are just supposed to exist? They are meant to be used up is more of a scientific argument than religious. As in food chain and general consumption. Resources are used for our benefits. Whether it be to fuel our bodies and give us energy or in other ways.

That contradicts evolution. If certain things were "meant to" be used as resources for other things you would most likely see them evolve to produce more off soring and not improve their survivability against natural predators.

**Frownland** · 06-16-2017, 05:24 PM

Isn't being eaten by birds who don't digest the seeds a huge way that plants spread?

Not that I agree with DJ's oil tycoon argument here.

OccultHawk · 06-16-2017, 05:30 PM

Darwin figured that out.

DwnWthVwls · 06-16-2017, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Isn't being eaten by birds who don't digest the seeds a huge way that plants spread?

Not that I agree with DJ's oil tycoon argument here.

Yes and that mechanism is for the survival of the plant. They didnt evolve to get eaten so the animals that eat them could use them for energy. If they did the seeds would also be a digestable source of nutrients.

Not sure i see how that goes against my point if that was your intent.

**Frownland** · 06-16-2017, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Yes and that mechanism is for the survival of the plant. They didnt evolve to get eaten so the animals that eat them could use them for energy. If they did the seeds would also be a digestable source of nutrients.

Not sure i see how that goes against my point if that was your intent.

Just an example of how being consumed can be evolutionary advantageous.

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