Trollheart

This is probably the most conceited thing I have ever heard you say, and that's saying something.
If you don't like music, it's bad. If I don't like music, I don't know what I'm talking about. Got ya. I'm 53, you're 20-something. You know more about music than me cos you can bang out noises on a guitar. Check. I tell you, I have more respect, musically, for Chula, Plankton, even Plainview and Kii than I do for you. Your arrogance is overwhelming and very annoying, but of course you know that.

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Frownland

Yes I was 100% serious with that statement

Oh and Ki doesn't make music.

I also want to note how this is true for literally everyone because both music and the concept of bad music are incredibly subjective.

I guess if you want me to be serious, points two and four are genuine. Me disliking a prog band has more validity than you disliking an experimental band (like in the scenario that you describe) because I enjoy the genre of the band that I'm listening to. It's not something I approach in trepidation. Point four kind of speaks for itself but if you want evidence, *gestures at this very conversation*.

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Thelonious Monkey

See? What an arrogant prick you are. Grow up.

The Batlord

Chris' arrogance is the best part about his music tbh.

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Trollheart

To be honest, I don't really care if you were, or say you were, joking, because this is the kind of thing you say on a regular basis, and I really think part of you believes it. I know I'm not perfect, in any way, but I know my shortcomings. You probably think you have none. Well good for you.

If music is subjective (and of course it is) then that should read "in a band who I think make terrible music". Your quote makes it look as if you take that for a fact. Anyway, who cares? I'm tired playing mind and word games with you. As I mentioned, I'm 53 (54 this year). You kids with your rock and/or roll tire me out. How do I use this Windows thingamejig again? "Warning: all files will be deleted y/n?" Well what happens if I push this Y key...

Oh, and I'm not a big fan of Ki's music but he makes better music than you, in my opinion.
You blame my age on what I listen to? Hmm. Well I listen to what I like, that's my main criterion. I also listen to classical, some pop, some blues, metal (some - very little - extreme), ambient, a little electronic, some country, some folk, the odd bit of world music ... it's not all prog rock, though that is my favourite. Also, it's prog rock not metal, though I do listen to both.

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Thelonious Monkey

Suck it up, he's clearly the superior human being here, you just don't see it yet. One day your eyes will open my friend. Then you will know.

Frownland

I don't include the words "I think" because of how obviously subjective calling something terrible is. Understand that I understand my opinion is my opinion. I'm not willing to start using redundant language to coddle everybody's worldview or to protect them from the perceived notion that my statement about a band is a personal attack.

I guess if you want me to be serious:

Points two and four from that list of answer to your original question are genuine. Me disliking a prog band has more validity than you disliking an experimental, free jazz, noise, avant-garde classical, or free improvisation artist (like in the scenario that you describe) because I enjoy the genre of the band that I'm listening to. It's not something I approach in trepidation. You not liking the album may be more of a product of you genuinely not understanding what you're hearing due to a limited vocabulary with that kind of music. It would be like me listening to R&B: I don't like most of the genre so I don't listen to much of it. If I were to throw on some kind of ultra revered classic for the first time, I might dislike it because of how I feel about the conventions of the genre itself. So if a person who loves R&B checks it out and hates it, it would be more valid than my opinion because they understand what the artist wants to do more than I would.

Point four kind of speaks for itself but if you want evidence, *gestures at this very conversation*.

And I totally am not serious about the being a musician part lol. We can probably add that to the list of answers to the OP.

He doesn't make music by his own admission. Respect the artist!

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Cuthbert

I got Frowny's back.

**** off the rest of you.

Key

How on earth does a ****storm happen on a thread that started because I had a stupid stoner thought. God damn.

Stephen

Lol. I will never joke about Genesis again.