Fetishes, sexual repression, polyamory vs monogamy etc. discussion

Chiomara · 02-08-2017, 02:26 AM

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Tristan_Geoff · 02-08-2017, 06:27 AM

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Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 02-08-2017, 06:51 AM

i have a tristan fetish

Blue Hawk · 02-08-2017, 07:08 AM

Talking about female zoophilia (beastiality) still taboo subject.

Trollheart · 02-08-2017, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Tristan Geoff

Seeing as pedophilia and other sexual disorders come from fetishes, I think they're best left alone. I don't know much about them really from a psychological standpoint, but don't they develop over time from exposure to certain things?

One of my friends was a closeted furry if that counts.
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Tristan, I'm sorry but this is an incredibly bigoted and self-righteous thing to say, and a huge over-over-overgeneralisation. Many people have fetishes which do not in any way end up as or come from sexual disorders, and frankly, to equate fetishism with paedophilia is so ignorant I can't even begin to tell you. Paedophilia is not a fetish, it's a sickness. You can't say to any person in the street, do you understand people who fiddle with kids? The very best they'll say is that they need help, most will just say they're evil and scum, which I would agree with.

If you take someone who, for instance, is into dressing as a woman, or a man, or a goddamn furry even, or someone who is into bukkake or spanking or foot play or whatever the hell - there's a huge spectrum out there (fire play? Blood play? Knife play?) and compare them to a kiddy fiddler, well it's just ignorant, wrong and totally uninformed.

The Batlord · 02-08-2017, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Tristan, I'm sorry but this is an incredibly bigoted and self-righteous thing to say, and a huge over-over-overgeneralisation. Many people have fetishes which do not in any way end up as or come from sexual disorders, and frankly, to equate fetishism with paedophilia is so ignorant I can't even begin to tell you. Paedophilia is not a fetish, it's a sickness. You can't say to any person in the street, do you understand people who fiddle with kids? The very best they'll say is that they need help, most will just say they're evil and scum, which I would agree with.

If you take someone who, for instance, is into dressing as a woman, or a man, or a goddamn furry even, or someone who is into bukkake or spanking or foot play or whatever the hell - there's a huge spectrum out there (fire play? Blood play? Knife play?) and compare them to a kiddy fiddler, well it's just ignorant, wrong and totally uninformed.

Outed.

Trollheart · 02-08-2017, 10:37 AM

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@tristan there's been very little research on the subject due to the taboo nature of it, so it is difficult to really know the source of paedophilia. I personally don't think that most fetishes would lead someone down that path, but I guess that it is possible.

This is mainly my point. While he may (and I'm sure does) not mean to, Tristan makes a definite connection between all fetishes and paedophilia. It's just not the same thing.

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@TH I understand your side but I also think you're holding a double standard here. Not all paedophiles are child molesters and despite the horrible nature of it, it is quite plainly a fetish. That doesn't delegitimize any other fetishes in any way.

I would wonder about that. If you're a paedophile isn't it endemic that you molest children? They can't (legally) consent, so surely it's molestation either way, at least in the eyes of the law. Did you see Broadchurch? As for the last sentence, well perhaps what I mean is it's not as accepted or understood a fetish as some of the more mainstream ones. Maybe. I certainly would not consider it a legitimate fetish, and would never want to see it being given any kind of legitimacy.

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~~Cuthbert~~ · 02-08-2017, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

I would wonder about that. If you're a paedophile isn't it endemic that you molest children? They can't (legally) consent, so surely it's molestation either way, at least in the eyes of the law.

A paedophile has a sexual attraction to prepubescent children. Doesn't have to do any actual noncing to be a paedophile.

**Frownland** · 02-08-2017, 10:40 AM

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I would wonder about that. If you're a paedophile isn't it endemic that you molest children?

No. You can have urges that you never act on. These are the people that researching and understanding paedophilia will help.

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As for the last sentence, well perhaps what I mean is it's not as accepted or understood a fetish as some of the more mainstream ones. Maybe. I certainly would not consider it a legitimate fetish, and would never want to see it being given any kind of legitimacy.

Sounds like a double standard to me.

The Batlord · 02-08-2017, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

This is mainly my point. While he may (and I'm sure does) not mean to, Tristan makes a definite connection between all fetishes and paedophilia. It's just not the same thing.

I would wonder about that. If you're a paedophile isn't it endemic that you molest children? They can't (legally) consent, so surely it's molestation either way, at least in the eyes of the law. Did you see Broadchurch? As for the last sentence, well perhaps what I mean is it's not as accepted or understood a fetish as some of the more mainstream ones. Maybe. I certainly would not consider it a legitimate fetish, and would never want to see it being given any kind of legitimacy.

Inned.

I'm sure there are pedophiles who never touch children because their morality trumps their sexual desires. How many pedos are like this I have no idea, and I suspect nobody does, cause the only way anyone ever really gets outed is if they get caught diddling. No one with common sense is ever going to admit it, so it's kind of difficult to study.

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