Goofle

In the last year or so I have become quite interested in the subject of Men's rights, and generally observed the arguments presented by prominent exponents of the cause (be that journalists or YouTube channels).

What I don't understand is the hesitation for many people to say they actively participate in, or support, Men's right activism. In fact, it's generally frowned upon and considered a bit of a joke.

So, you, MB members. Why don't you consider yourself an MRA?

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Frownland

I've always viewed it as a childish response to extreme third wave feminism.

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Tristan_Geoff

Wait, is this a joke?

No offense or anything, but it seems like with all the push for women's rights (and rightfully so, ignore the pun) that men's rights would be covered under basic human rights. This is espeically true in countries such as Saudi Arabia, where pretty much everyone's rights are squelched, but women have it a tad worse.

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Goofle

You can advocate for both at the same time brah.

But I'd say I'm specifically interested in the rights that actually effect me and people born in my country.

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Trollheart

Well, what rights do men not have? That's a serious question, because other than the right to have children or maybe report a rape, I don't see it.

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Chula Vista

It's all good.

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Cuthbert

The right to not be genitally mutilated at birth?

inb4 20 pages, three infractions and one ban.

Goofle

Well, you kinda hinted at some inequalities yourself (children, parental expectations and and obligations being a major one), as well as what Monkey said. Those alone are enough to justify the existence of a group that advocates for the human rights of Men and Boy's.

They also exist to point out general inequalities that are not specifically "human rights" such as the severe lack of men's shelters, the massive difference between men and women when it comes to suicide and homelessness. Or even men being expected to retire at an older age.

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Rights for all I say. Rights for trees, and plants, and animals, and all mankind.

Frownland

I think that the stigma comes from self proclaimed MRAs going on the internet and talking out of their asses and making their own movement look like veiled misogyny. It's the same sort of thing that makes people apprehensive to say that they are a Death Grips or Tool fan, as they may very well agree that Death Grips or men's rights issues are great or need addressing, but they don't want to be associated with the crowd. Much like the perception that I had in the first post I made in this thread.

I think it does have valid points, just looking at the overall trend.

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