Why does there seem to be a stigma attached to advocate for Men's Rights?
 

In the last year or so I have become quite interested in the subject of Men's rights, and generally observed the arguments presented by prominent exponents of the cause (be that journalists or YouTube channels).

What I don't understand is the hesitation for many people to say they actively participate in, or support, Men's right activism. In fact, it's generally frowned upon and considered a bit of a joke.

So, you, MB members. Why don't you consider yourself an MRA?

I've always viewed it as a childish response to extreme third wave feminism.

Wait, is this a joke?

No offense or anything, but it seems like with all the push for women's rights (and rightfully so, ignore the pun) that men's rights would be covered under basic human rights. This is espeically true in countries such as Saudi Arabia, where pretty much everyone's rights are squelched, but women have it a tad worse.

You can advocate for both at the same time brah.

But I'd say I'm specifically interested in the rights that actually effect me and people born in my country.

Well, what rights do men not have? That's a serious question, because other than the right to have children or maybe report a rape, I don't see it.

It's all good.

http://social.rollins.edu/wpsites/th...2013/04/ad.png

The right to not be genitally mutilated at birth?

inb4 20 pages, three infractions and one ban.

Well, you kinda hinted at some inequalities yourself (children, parental expectations and and obligations being a major one), as well as what Monkey said. Those alone are enough to justify the existence of a group that advocates for the human rights of Men and Boy's.

They also exist to point out general inequalities that are not specifically "human rights" such as the severe lack of men's shelters, the massive difference between men and women when it comes to suicide and homelessness. Or even men being expected to retire at an older age.

Rights for all I say. Rights for trees, and plants, and animals, and all mankind.

I think that the stigma comes from self proclaimed MRAs going on the internet and talking out of their asses and making their own movement look like veiled misogyny. It's the same sort of thing that makes people apprehensive to say that they are a Death Grips or Tool fan, as they may very well agree that Death Grips or men's rights issues are great or need addressing, but they don't want to be associated with the crowd. Much like the perception that I had in the first post I made in this thread.

I think it does have valid points, just looking at the overall trend.

I'm not aware of these particular MRA's I suppose.

Re: question in OP, I don't feel like I need to. Things like banning non medical infant circumcision should be common sense issues.

I like my circumcision. So much cleaner. I've only seen non-C in porn and it just looks, weird.

All hail the C!

http://blogs.democratandchronicle.co...10/gortons.jpg

I'm genuinely glad for you. Unfortunately not all people are happy about their infant circumcisions.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=gUFwPD8yfNU

"Hey mom, can we talk about my dick for a minute?"

Seriously though, I probably wouldn't circumcise my son.

Aren't most americans circumcised?

Looks like we are.

+1 Dirty foreskin for the loss. :yikes:

Hang on, let me check.

:rofl:

It's disappointing how people think because they weren't affected, nobody else should be. It's not even cleaner unless you don't practice good hygiene lol smh.

Poor arguments. But we've discussed all this before.

Yeah I remember you being the champion of every young boy in the UK last time we discussed it. I have never heard of anyone in the states running into issues. I think its a third world country argument with regard to side effects.

Being serious: I knew a guy who had to be circumcised at the age of 20 because he kept getting infections. And he was anal about hygiene leading up to it.

I can still hear the howls of pain from the bathroom.

I never recommend doing it yourself at home.

I believe there are 100+ deaths per year in the US .

Quick link - Lost Boys: An Estimate of U.S. Circumcision-Related Infant Deaths | Dan Bollinger - Academia.edu

Even if this were not the case (can't be arsed to make a longer post I'm on mobile) chopping off bits of infants who cannot consent, for reasons such as cosmetics, is just madness IMO. Were it any other body part and didn't have religious history people wouldn't stand for it.

Nice circumcision thread we're having here.

Sorry :D

Back to MRA ****.

I like the part where they say there isn't any accurate data on this subject.

I had friend who got an infection in his appendix in his mid 20s and almost died. We should probably remove the appendixes of all babies, you know, just in case.

Not a fan of social activism, especialy of the "I'm X and therefore an X rights activist".
I know stuff like that sometimes changes the world for the better, but I personally like to stay the hell away from it. No offense to those who like to involve themselves in something like that.

Until they have man colored tampon boxes, there will be no justice for MRA.

Goofle, what exactly constitutes as men's rights that wouldn't fall under basic human rights?

Alot of activist tend to gravitate towards parenting equality and rights with regard to the birth of their children. Parenting equality is something I could see being a hot topic.

Well, I guess I could make the argument that the women (unless problems such as mental instability or criminal record exist) should have rights to a child, given the whole being pregnant thing.

I used to identify more with the feminist movement and saw the MRA's as a joke; now while I still believe many MRA's are just angry misogynists, seeing both sides really made me see they had some good points. At this point I just call myself an egalitarian and call it a day.

Gonna avoid my first response for fear of getting banned.

Semi-obvious point being, you wanna take the chance of stitches at the end of your dick while trying to take a pee? Janz, tell me you are not against flu shots...

Do you have hurricane insurance? I know you're in SoCal, but you don't want to risk it, do you?

Is this a MB Board threat? Wanna explain the specifics?

Or maybe you are just being funny and I'm missing the point.

Not exactly in the mood right now. Probably shouldn't have posted. Questions still stand.

donb@kscind.com

If you wanna discuss.

I'm guessing SoCal doesn't get many hurricanes so he's asking if you have hurricane insurance, just in case you do happen to have your house destroyed by one.

I think that's the joke.

Bingo. It's been almost 20 years Chula, we're definitely due.