Why does there seem to be a stigma attached to advocate for Men's Rights?

duga · 05-04-2017, 10:18 AM

My stance on this is the same stance I have for any counter-movement. This is reactionary. Any time there is a movement in one direction (in this case, women's rights), there will inevitably be a counter movement filled with people who don't understand the reason there is a women's rights movement in the first place. Just because there is a movement for "x" doesn't mean "y" is being treated unfairly or that they are not getting their voices heard. This is the same as people countering "Black Lives Matter" with "White/All Lives Matter". Do all lives matter? Of course, but you are missing the point. Some lives feel they have mattered less and deserve some recognition and support. Do men's rights matter? Of course, but I don't think men have historically had a problem asserting their rights. I know there has been discussion about genital mutilation - is it a weird and archaic practice to circumcise men? Sure, but unlike female genital mutilation, a lot of people buy the "hygiene" argument and I'd say circumcision still has popular support in our society. Your opinion about whether or not it's wrong is one thing - you are entitled to your opinion. The difference between this and female genital mutilation seen throughout the world is parents have a choice about circumcision. If Goofle has a boy and decides not to circumcise him, he doesn't have to. If that same boy grows up and wants a circumcision, he can. The same can't be said for women in oppressive countries around the world.

Think hard enough about any group of people and you can come up with some ways that that group is "oppressed". But you are just scraping the bottom of the barrel to come up with problems. You better believe any problem men have will be solved fairly quickly if enough men agree it's a problem. Who would stop them? There are plenty of people who will get in the way of women's rights and at this point in history, there are PLENTY of people to stop them. THAT is the point.

This thread is huge and I didn't read through all 71 pages, so sorry if any of that is redundant.

05-04-2017, 10:18 AM	#10 (permalink)
duga MB quadrant's JM Vincent Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 3,762	My stance on this is the same stance I have for any counter-movement. This is reactionary. Any time there is a movement in one direction (in this case, women's rights), there will inevitably be a counter movement filled with people who don't understand the reason there is a women's rights movement in the first place. Just because there is a movement for "x" doesn't mean "y" is being treated unfairly or that they are not getting their voices heard. This is the same as people countering "Black Lives Matter" with "White/All Lives Matter". Do all lives matter? Of course, but you are missing the point. Some lives feel they have mattered less and deserve some recognition and support. Do men's rights matter? Of course, but I don't think men have historically had a problem asserting their rights. I know there has been discussion about genital mutilation - is it a weird and archaic practice to circumcise men? Sure, but unlike female genital mutilation, a lot of people buy the "hygiene" argument and I'd say circumcision still has popular support in our society. Your opinion about whether or not it's wrong is one thing - you are entitled to your opinion. The difference between this and female genital mutilation seen throughout the world is parents have a choice about circumcision. If Goofle has a boy and decides not to circumcise him, he doesn't have to. If that same boy grows up and wants a circumcision, he can. The same can't be said for women in oppressive countries around the world. Think hard enough about any group of people and you can come up with some ways that that group is "oppressed". But you are just scraping the bottom of the barrel to come up with problems. You better believe any problem men have will be solved fairly quickly if enough men agree it's a problem. Who would stop them? There are plenty of people who will get in the way of women's rights and at this point in history, there are PLENTY of people to stop them. THAT is the point. This thread is huge and I didn't read through all 71 pages, so sorry if any of that is redundant. __________________ Confusion will be my epitaph...