Why does there seem to be a stigma attached to advocate for Men's Rights?

Paedantic Basterd · 11-07-2016, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

I understand your point here, but it's kind of irrelevant. Mutilating children because of aesthetic or religious reasons is completely abhorrent.

What was my point

I was genuinely asking if it'd affect their decision

**Goofle** · 11-07-2016, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Paedantic Basterd

What was my point

I was genuinely asking if it'd affect their decision

Yeah, I understood at the time. Made the edit because my post was unclear.

Paedantic Basterd · 11-07-2016, 06:45 PM

Basically, I think of it as a procedure similar to scarification, which is to say it should be an informed decision made by an adult*.

Clarification: Not by a third party adult.

Paedantic Basterd · 11-07-2016, 06:50 PM

Here, earlier I was asking for a source for information on the hygienic aspect of circumcision. Here's one from the WHO (not the band).

"Male circumcision is medically indicated for only a few conditions. There is substantial evidence that cir- cumcised men have a lower risk of some reproductive tract infections, as well as penile cancer, but some of these conditions are rare while others are uncommon or treatable, and routine neonatal circumcision is not currently recommended on medical grounds."

Pg. 26 http://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/1...596169_eng.pdf

Please note: I did not carry on and source check this source's sources. I don't have that much energy to devote to the internet.

Paedantic Basterd · 11-07-2016, 06:59 PM

Men have the right to moisturization.

**Goofle** · 11-07-2016, 07:07 PM

Yeah, let's legalize Female Genital Mutilation whilst we are not banning the mutilation of little boys. Parents should have the right to mutilate their little girl if they want.

Key · 11-07-2016, 07:09 PM

Delete my post in here. I'm not getting into this.

Paedantic Basterd · 11-07-2016, 07:11 PM

Ffs.

Morally correct decisions* are those which minimize harm for the most people possible. Obviously raising a nazi or refusing to vaccinate a child poses potential harms to society more broadly, so you shouldn't ****ing do it. If you leave a child uncircumcized he's not going to start a war or an outbreak of ebola.

*We can talk about what this constitutes later. I'd love to; morality is my psychological bread and butter.

**Goofle** · 11-07-2016, 07:18 PM

Foreskin is only a result of many thousands of years of evolution. Might as well cut off eyelids at birth because they are also one of God's many accidents.

**Frownland** · 11-07-2016, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

Foreskin is only a result of many thousands of years of evolution. Might as well cut off eyelids at birth because they are clearly one of God's many accidents.

We already shed the first set of eyelids. I'm up for round two, how about you?

11-07-2016, 06:45 PM	#3 (permalink)
Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	Basically, I think of it as a procedure similar to scarification, which is to say it should be an informed decision made by an adult*. Clarification: Not by a third party adult.

11-07-2016, 06:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	Here, earlier I was asking for a source for information on the hygienic aspect of circumcision. Here's one from the WHO (not the band). "Male circumcision is medically indicated for only a few conditions. There is substantial evidence that cir- cumcised men have a lower risk of some reproductive tract infections, as well as penile cancer, but some of these conditions are rare while others are uncommon or treatable, and routine neonatal circumcision is not currently recommended on medical grounds." Pg. 26 http://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/1...596169_eng.pdf Please note: I did not carry on and source check this source's sources. I don't have that much energy to devote to the internet.

11-07-2016, 06:59 PM	#5 (permalink)
Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	Men have the right to moisturization.

11-07-2016, 07:09 PM	#7 (permalink)
Key . Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,153	Delete my post in here. I'm not getting into this.

11-07-2016, 07:11 PM	#8 (permalink)
Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	Ffs. Morally correct decisions* are those which minimize harm for the most people possible. Obviously raising a nazi or refusing to vaccinate a child poses potential harms to society more broadly, so you shouldn't ***ing do it. If you leave a child uncircumcized he's not going to start a war or an outbreak of ebola. We can talk about what this constitutes later. I'd love to; morality is my psychological bread and butter.