Chula Vista

Just stop it. It was 31 years ago. Stop assuming you know anything about my relationships with my family.

The story has come up numerous times through the years always accompianed by laughs, as have many other childhood stories.

And don't worry, my daughter is much too classy to ever hang around a dive like this place.

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Paedantic Basterd

Meta-analyses are the greatest tool we have to determine scientific fact and how a sea of findings converge to reveal a greater picture.

A case study is a snapshot of a person. A study is a snapshot of a specific population. A meta-analysis is the closest thing science has to a complete picture of a phenomenon.

The meta-analytic process involves massive teams of researchers pooling ALL of the research (some parameters specified depending on what the meta-analysis is designed to study) on a topic--and I mean scouring thousands--hundreds of thousands--of studies (both published and unpublished), then pooling and analyzing the data from those studies to examine the broad trends that are occurring in a field of research.

Meta-analyses are how we can say something with 99.9% certainty. They're how 95+% of scientists can agree upon issues like climate change and the value of vaccines. They're as concrete as science currently gets, and they're the future of scientific agreement in any given field.

**** yeah science!

Frownland

I know one person who spanked as a kid. His name? Adolf Hitler. The negative effects of spanking are blatant.

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Paedantic Basterd

I mean, you're basically pitting your science against mine, and I've been studying the field of psychology (including child development) for half a decade soooo.

If you've got research to link me to, I'd be interested in reading it and evaluating it, but if not, I'm sticking with the information I trust and can validate.

Chula Vista

Not sure if you saw this link.

https://www.acpeds.org/the-college-s...-is-misleading

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and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

Paedantic Basterd

Well, first of all, I never claimed that spanking turns kids into psychopaths. I know the research isn't conclusive regarding whether spanking ruins kids. My point has only ever been that (A) spanking has proven to be less effective than other behavioural training methods and (B) if you don't have to hit someone, you shouldn't.

Regarding meta-analysis, the complaints cited are only partially valid and do not detract from the value of meta-analysis as an analytic tool. Complaining about correlational research? In that case you are going to have a problem with literally all of science, because guess what? It's all correlational. It's not possible to isolate a variable in such a way as to definitively prove causation. We can get very close, and the closer the better, but ultimately, it's all correlation.

I only skimmed the rest because this document appears to be about whether meta-analysis has shown that spanking ****s kids up, which is irrelevant to me because that was never my claim.

Chula Vista

The article points are that medicine and discipline are areas where meta-analysis is most flawed. And I wouldn't consider physics, math, and electronics as three areas of science that are corellnational.

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Frownland

Which is why vaccines cause autism.

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Paedantic Basterd

A correlation is simply an association. That association can be strong or weak. The ability of a scientific experiment to uncover strong or weak associations naturally differs depending on the nature of what is being studied. In the fields you mentioned, scientists are working largely with concrete variables, meaning it's easier to uncover strong associations.

Unfortunately, the brain, consciousness, and behaviour are wildly difficult variables to isolate and control. They're basically universes unto themselves. You can't really hold it against science or psychology that researchers are forced to work with weaker associations than in harder sciences due to the nature of what is being studied.

But yeah, a correlation is literally just a tendency for two variables to coincide, and that applies to the "harder" sciences you mentioned as much as it does to the social sciences; it's just much more difficult to eliminate all of the extraneous noise when you're trying to study something as abstract as "personality" or "emotional turmoil" or "well-being".

OccultHawk

lol

Really?

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