Why does there seem to be a stigma attached to advocate for Men's Rights?

Chula Vista · 05-03-2017, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

One is a violation of human rights.

Over 80% of US males have their human rights violated before they're even 3 days old. Oh the humanity.

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Originally Posted by Goofle

Not an argument.

I'm not trying to argue. I was just stating some facts.

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DwnWthVwls · 05-03-2017, 01:47 PM

If you're not trying to justify your position then why even bring this up?

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Should my parents have waited until I could have consented to having the tube connected to my belly cut off?

Wtf kind of argument is this.. FIRST, it's not part of your person. SECOND, it falls off on its own.

You have no reason for your position other than "I don't care" so obviously there is no changing your mind. I'm just judging you for being dense.

**Frownland** · 05-03-2017, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Listen guys, I don't come to this place as if I'm stepping into a high school debate contest.

Well it is what you set yourself up for when you thrust yourself into this kind of discussion.

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I'm not looking for "points" in an effort to win anything. I say my piece, you say yours. No-one's minds are going to get changed.

Actually, if your piece is clearer and more logical than mine, I would be open to changing my views. Debate is an opportunity to judge the quality of our own views, it would be foolish to write off other views that are more logical just because it doesn't align with my former views. For example, I used to view circumcision similarly to how you do before I really started debating and thinking on the matter.

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- I happen to know someone who had to get it done for medical purposes.
- I happen to know he suffered pretty bad afterwards.
- I'm happy my parents chose to have me done when I was a newborn.

Anecdotal evidence. Toss it in the trash. https://thelogicofscience.com/2016/0...lly-worthless/

I could use botched circumcisions that resulted in castration as a point against the practice, but since that's more an issue with medical training and equipment, I won't fall back on it. I'd appreciate it if you at least attempted to match that kind of intellectual honesty.

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- I noted that the vast majority of pro dicks are snipped.
- I noted that over 80% of US males are snipped.

Neat! How does this establish a moral grounding of the practice though? Are you suggesting that popular things are inherently good?

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- I noted that it's done to females purely to limit their sexuality.

Stop equating male and female circumcision.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 05-03-2017, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

If a girl is born with huge beef curtains can we trim them to prevent infections and because they don't look pretty?

Edit: I noted a lot of things and you haven't addressed a single one of them.

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Chula Vista · 05-03-2017, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

I'm just judging you for being dense.

I don't agree with you - you must be dense.

Just stop fellas.

Oh, and I've witnessed two births up close. It doesn't just fall off.

And you're calling me dense? Also it contains two of your arteries along with a vein and it's most certainly a "part of you" up until they CUT it off.

Isbjørn · 05-03-2017, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Listen guys, I don't come to this place as if I'm stepping into a high school debate contest. I'm not looking for "points" in an effort to win anything. I say my piece, you say yours. No-one's minds are going to get changed.

- I happen to know someone who had to get it done for medical purposes.
- I happen to know he suffered pretty bad afterwards.
- I'm happy my parents chose to have me done when I was a newborn.
- I noted that the vast majority of pro dicks are snipped.
- I noted that over 80% of US males are snipped.
- I noted that it's done to females purely to limit their sexuality.

Let me know if you disagree with any of these points.

I don't. That's why I haven't addressed them.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Having a dick snipped as a newborn = get implants as a teenager or 20-something?

I wasn't the one to bring porn and aesthetics into this.

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Originally Posted by Goofle

That's a shame. I know somebody who got hit by a car.

Did he voluntarily get hit by a car for medical reasons?

**Frownland** · 05-03-2017, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

I don't agree with you - you must be dense.

Just stop fellas.

It's more your argumentative tactics and reasoning behind your stance than the actual stance itself. Can you at least try to accurately comprehend people's points that aren't your own?

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Oh, and I've witnessed two births up close. It doesn't just fall off.

And you're calling me dense? Also it contains two of your arteries along with a vein and it's most certainly a "part of you" up until they CUT it off.

It dries up and falls off after a certain amount of time, even though the trend is to cut it off before then.

Isbjørn · 05-03-2017, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Stop equating male and female circumcision.

He didn't, he was pointing out the difference between them.

**Frownland** · 05-03-2017, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Isbjørn

He didn't, he was pointing out the difference between them.

If someone never has a conversation about one without bringing up the other, it suggests that they equate the two on some level. Or maybe they want to use it as reasoning to dismiss opposing opinions a la "all lives matter."

DwnWthVwls · 05-03-2017, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

I don't agree with you - you must be dense.

Just stop fellas.

Oh, and I've witnessed two births up close. It doesn't just fall off.

And you're calling me dense? Also it contains two of your arteries along with a vein and it's most certainly a "part of you" up until they CUT it off.

Really? Maybe not, in the time frame you want because you have something against human nature... Tell me how if it doesn't fall of naturally why we aren't all walking around with the stump they leave behind after cutting.

It really is amazing the lengths you'll go through to argue points based on opinion when there are facts that contradict you.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2...-cut-the-cord/

http://www.albertahealthservices.ca/...l-cord-faq.pdf

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