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Cuthbert 05-03-2017 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1831092)
I don't remember my circumcision. I'm so glad my parents decided to go that route. It's never hindered my sexual pleasure a single bit. I also enjoy the clean hoody look.

Why are you incapable of acknowledging the lack of consent? Every time we discuss this you basically tell us that you're OK with it therefore everyone else should be too and if they're not then **** them.

The reason people have an issue with non medical infant circumcision is because the person in question has no say in what happens to their own body.

Do you think people should be given the choice?

djchameleon 05-03-2017 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1831150)
Why are you incapable of acknowledging the lack of consent? Every time we discuss this you basically tell us that you're OK with it therefore everyone else should be too and if they're not then **** them.

The reason people have an issue with non medical infant circumcision is because the person in question has no say in what happens to their own body.

Do you think people should be given the choice?

Lack of consent? By the time they can consent that makes the procedure even riskier. The parents are the legal guardians so they are able to give consent.

Akai 05-03-2017 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1831150)
Do you think people should be given the choice?

Yes, the person in question should be on hold until they can make up their own mind imo

But tbh, I don't know too much about it as it isn't really a common where I'm at

Goofle 05-03-2017 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1831141)
Can you give some examples of these achievements?

Abolition of slavery and equal voting rights. Creating the most free societies by pretty much any metric.

OccultHawk 05-03-2017 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1831157)
Abolition of slavery and equal voting rights. Creating the most free societies by pretty much any metric.

Abolition of slavery an achievement? Did the father who stopped molesting his daughter when she went off to college also achieve something?

Cuthbert 05-03-2017 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1831154)
Lack of consent? By the time they can consent that makes the procedure even riskier. The parents are the legal guardians so they are able to give consent.

The process (non medical infant circumcision) is unnecessary anyway. Foreskin can't be brought back but can always be removed if the individual wishes to have a circumcision out of their own free will in the future, therefore stopping it and allowing them to have the choice is the correct decision.

IMO.

Goofle 05-03-2017 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1831161)
Abolition of slavery an achievement? Did the father who stopped molesting his daughter when she went off to college also achieve something?

Considering slavery still exists in many places across the world I think it's fair to say that it was a giant leap forward for the countries who abolished it.

djchameleon 05-03-2017 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1831162)
The process (non medical infant circumcision) is unnecessary anyway. Foreskin can't be brought back but can always be removed if the individual wishes to have a circumcision out of their own free will in the future, therefore stopping it and allowing them to have the choice is the correct decision.

IMO.

Removing the skin later on like I said is what leads to those circumcision horror stories that people on your side like to wave around as mutilation and brutality. Come off it.

It is better to be done as an infant and is in no way comparable to female circumcision.

Goofle 05-03-2017 06:14 AM

Why would anyone willingly choose to have their foreskin removed if no medical issue was involved? The only reasons you would do so are either religious, or to appease women/men who think it looks more attractive. But I'd suggest raising your standards in partner.

Cuthbert 05-03-2017 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1831166)
Removing the skin later on like I said is what leads to those circumcision horror stories that people on your side like to wave around as mutilation and brutality. Come off it.

It might not need to be removed at all, so that would be something the individual is able to think about and then decide if they want to proceed with the circumcision. But at present they are not able to decide but may want to keep their foreskin.

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It is better to be done as an infant and is in no way comparable to female circumcision.
I did not compare it to anything. You've just done that.


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