I'm almost as amused that our lawmakers use reddit.

That subreddit sucks ass.

Have you seen the red pill?

Yes he should watch the red pill for a great laugh.

Yeah, them Men with their unequal rights and stuff. I actually threw up my lung laughing at the circumcision scene.

Feminism and men's rights are both a fucking joke

Lol. Love you goofle.

I'm glad proponents of men's rights issues can handle criticism so swimmingly. Really bolsters their ideas.

how are human right issues handled in the land of Frowns

Executions. If you can't appreciate your life, you don't deserve it.

here in Qwertropolis we enforce mandatory abortion laws to keep things under control at all times

I tried that but the rollout went horribly. Maybe in a few years.

Women having their bits cut: Illegal.

Men having their bits cut: Legal.

That's totally not a legitimate unequal rights claim...

Just have a Holocaust and kill everyone instead. This jew approves of that idea.

I have to disagree goof. A women bits getting cut means that she can't enjoy sex with you. A man getting his cut means no cheese dick.

They're not one in the same.

I mean, yeah, it's bull**** and unfair, but it's kinda like when gay people equate homophobia with slavery. Yeah, **** that **** and ****, but human property kind of dwarfs other concerns. It's simply not a thing that overwhelms my consciouscness.

yeah if i'm ever in a situation where i might have a child of my own there is a 100% chance that one of us dies before it makes it out of the womb

The fact you feel the need to add some extra layer of analogy and explanation is pretty sad. It's a genuine inequality that is pre-historic and barbaric. No need for anything else.

Thankfully babies can't buy guns.

once im up in there it's just a matter of who can pull the trigger first

I feel like Zao wouldn't appreciate me using this as a soundtrack, so I'm gonna listen to that.

Analogy is a good way to help people realize that they are mirror versions of the things they hate (in this case, hyperbolic SJWs).

It doesn't really apply when what is being presented is simply a fact. Would be nice to see equality under the law but whatever etc.

The fact that you need to equate the two says that either you don't give a **** about the one, or you feel the need to give a **** so strongly about the other that you'll warp your brain however you need to

It's more about being tactless than the content of what you're saying. You know very well how much I agree with you on circumcision. Whininess is just annoying.

Natural science only observes differences between biological sex, not gender.. You can blame social sciences for that (unless you have some examples I'm unaware of?).. but if people want to go around acting like differences in biological sex aren't better suited for different things because they think there is something inherently wrong with that, even though it exists in every other species, than plead their case. Probably best suited for another existing thread though. It's an interesting topic.

FTR, before Chula gets offended, I use proper pronouns, support LGBT+ rights, and wouldn't mind gender neutral bathrooms. I assume these nuggets of compassion will get overlooked by my crass attitude though.

Dude, don't be so massively idiotic. Obviously I think both are barbaric and should be illegal. Wanting BOTH to be illegal is the only morally sound opinion (and yes I know you agree with me Frown, I have no beef with you here).

No, It's quite literally an equal rights issue. Neither should be legal. Finished.

If you wanna talk about the eradication of Government I am open to it. But whilst we still have them, it's simply an equal rights issue.

I don't see how severity of the damage makes something more or less an equal rights issue. It either is or it is not a violation of rights (there is no grey area here, there are only 2 positions you can possibly take). If one groups rights are protected and the other groups are not, its an inequality.. Stop over complicating things.

Just for arguments sake, what would you need to have done to your penis for it to be a equal rights issue?

You would think it would be that simple.

I understand that, but we aren't talking about implementation, we are talking about if it is or is not a violation of equal rights. Or that's what I thought we were talking about.

I also think it arguably has less to do with denying parenting decisions and more to do the the overstepping of religion. I'd argue that if female genital mutilation was part of our religious standards it'd be legal here.

I agree with this.

What about people who don't want to get cheese dick. Sounds like you want to oppress them.

I don't remember my circumcision. I'm so glad my parents decided to go that route. It's never hindered my sexual pleasure a single bit. I also enjoy the clean hoody look.

Female genital mutilation is done for the specific reason of limiting a woman's ability to enjoy sex when the come of age for religious reasons as well as a male's dominance over the females in general.

Equating the two is pretty ****ing stupid and a terrible way to try and make the point some of you are trying to make.

I agree. Don't mutilate the genitals of children that aren't able to consent, regardless of their sex. It's not that hard.

But female circumsition is more severe since the consequences are life-long.

No one is equating the two except by saying they both violate human rights. Or are you going to sit here and argue with me that murder and speeding are not both breaking the law?

I'm against both. I'm just more against female circumsision.

Compare the different procedures. Which one is more harmful? I think the answer is obvious. Why is it wrong to bring that up?

I was talking to Chula. Sorry Briks.

Edit: the consequences of circumsion are life ling too.

Obviously it's completely hypothetical, but I don't think it would be. I think given the other kinds of things our societies have gone on to achieve regarding rights and equality I think it would have been outlawed regardless of religious connotations.

But that comes from the standpoint that we care more about the health and safety of women than men.

Can you give some examples of these achievements?