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Old 12-15-2017, 04:45 PM   #1251 (permalink)
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You said "you're the one that wants to attach a label to it to make it sound bad" to elph when she's far from the only one adding labels to advocacy.

I mean arguing that you want equal rights for everyone is essentially agreeing with elph so I guess I'm on everyone's side.
No, he's arguing privileged people don't have a right to seek equality in areas where there isn't.. At least that's how i took it. Trying to make it sound bad if you say youre pro white or hetero rights.
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No, he's arguing privileged people don't have a right to seek equality in areas where there isn't.. At least that's how i took it. Trying to make it sound bad if you say youre pro white or hetero rights.
He's interpreting the trend of the majority's demands for rights being demands for oppression as the rule.

What you both seem to be saying is that being a compartmentalized advocate does less for equality than being for equal rights for everyone.
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an example of this was the circumcision issue

not even a men's rights issue as female circumcision is even worse

it's a human rights issue

compare this to for example women's suffrage which is where using "X group rights" would be applicable
Bad example tbh. I think that both should be addressed but I avoid lumping them together because one is so much more awful than the other that they lose their equivalency.
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