Why does there seem to be a stigma attached to advocate for Men's Rights?

**Goofle** · 12-04-2017, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

the whole point is it's not inherent

Ahh, that's why it's called "Toxic Masculinity". Makes sense now you said that...

The Batlord · 12-04-2017, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

when I don't understand things I like to say they don't exist

Thrash is a myth perpetuated by the corporatist oligarchs.

**Goofle** · 12-04-2017, 08:34 PM

Yep, I was confused. It's obvious that the phrase doesn't refer to masculinity inherently, hence why it uses the term masculinity. It would be called something else if it was prejudiced. Thanks for clearing it up.

**Frownland** · 12-04-2017, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

Yep, I was confused. It's obvious that the phrase doesn't refer to masculinity inherently, hence why it uses the term masculinity. It would be called something else if it was prejudiced. Thanks for clearing it up.

I already cleared it up for you mate. It's literally an abstract concept but it's also pretty straightforward.

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Who said inherent? Toxic masculinity is the product of societal reinforcement of negative traits that females couldn't get away with. Like I said: which YouTube video did you hear about toxic masculinity from? Because it really sounds like you don't know about the basics of the concept and getting your politics from reactionary videos will do that.

**Goofle** · 12-04-2017, 08:48 PM

I'm kind of leaving you to one side because it's pointless to discuss this stuff with somebody who has such a profound lack of common decency and compassion.

**Frownland** · 12-04-2017, 08:59 PM

Decency is clearly for basic hoes and I'm a complex ho.

~~[MERIT]~~ · 12-04-2017, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

Question: Why is the disparity of criminal sentencing between men and women larger than the gap between blacks and whites?

^ This person gets it.

~~[MERIT]~~ · 12-05-2017, 12:12 AM

I think there can be a "toxic" masculine cultural, just like there can be a "toxic" feminine culture. What does that mean? TOXIC means that it kills. Es no bueno. Every culture has parts that are not so go. I would say that the "toxic masculine culture" would be any male with traits that are unfavorable, that would lead to the reduction of the population of males or would cast males in a bad light. The same goes for "toxic feminine culture," making it any female with traits that are unfavorable, that would lead to the reduction of the population of females or would cast females in a bad light.

Is the golden rule really so hard to follow? Treat others as you wish to be treated?

Lucem Ferre · 12-05-2017, 01:00 AM

I understand why you hate the term, Goofle, but the concept is really easy to understand and it does exist. If anything if you really want to stand for men's rights you'd want to get rid of toxic masculinity. Like for one, the idea that men aren't supposed to express their emotions. Men commit suicide at a significantly higher rate than women and more often than women most men feel like they don't have somebody to confide in. This culture shoves the idea that men are supposed to hide their pain and sorrows deep down and 'man up' and just move on. With out properly expressing our emotions it pushes people into a state of lonely despondency. Because it's not masculine to talk about your feelings according to society. That's toxic. It's toxic masculinity. It's not having a penis that makes you toxic, it's forcing harmful behavior onto somebody because they have a penis. And it's not a problem caused by men, girls will shove these ignorant ideas on us as well, it's a problem caused by society. If you really don't get the concept with that example maybe you're just stupid.

Edit: And ignore elphenor, he doesn't really give a ****, he just likes looking like it. Always notice how he sits back and leans on petty insults while the real thinkers are actually discussing it. And he doesn't have a cat face.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 12-05-2017, 01:52 AM

Lucem what's your sig about?

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~~[MERIT]~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Missouri, USA Posts: 4,814	I think there can be a "toxic" masculine cultural, just like there can be a "toxic" feminine culture. What does that mean? TOXIC means that it kills. Es no bueno. Every culture has parts that are not so go. I would say that the "toxic masculine culture" would be any male with traits that are unfavorable, that would lead to the reduction of the population of males or would cast males in a bad light. The same goes for "toxic feminine culture," making it any female with traits that are unfavorable, that would lead to the reduction of the population of females or would cast females in a bad light. Is the golden rule really so hard to follow? Treat others as you wish to be treated?

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~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	Lucem what's your sig about?