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Zhanteimi 08-16-2017 02:15 AM

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djchameleon 08-16-2017 02:15 AM

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopo...s13n-6-web.jpg

Don't pretend like you don't know what a larp shield looks like.

Lucem Ferre 08-16-2017 03:37 AM

So saying that racism towards whites exists and still counts as racism makes you a nazi? (They go by white nationalist or alt. right or what ever cowardly move to avoid having to admit to being racist, by the way DJ)

This is why I hate our political environment right now. I hate both sides.

Edit: I call them Vanilla Isis BTW. The Alt right racist guys.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 08-16-2017 04:39 AM

doesnt boiling every issue down to race cause us to ignore everyone's individual struggle? being poor is difficult regardless of your race. being unemployed is difficult regardless of your race. providing for children that you never planned to have is difficult regardless of race.

life isn't inherently more difficult because of your skin colour. if i had to do life again and got to choose between being a poor trailer park white kid born to drug addicts or a suburban middle class black kid guess which one i'm taking?

being poor AND black in the current politcal climate would be pretty tough though not denying that one

Zhanteimi 08-16-2017 04:41 AM

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djchameleon 08-16-2017 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1865012)
life isn't inherently more difficult because of your skin colour. if i had to do life again and got to choose between being a poor trailer park white kid born to drug addicts or a suburban middle class black kid guess which one i'm taking?

It actually is though, it's more than just income that makes people of a different skin color have a different experience in life.

Good luck picking being a suburban middle class black kid, you will constantly have to experience being prejudiced against on many levels. You get into a good school and people will only assume that you were there because of your skin color and not your own merit. You will get pulled up significantly more because of your skin color. Assumptions will be made about you and people will view you as a threat just because of your skin color.

The phrase "boiling everything down to race" is similar to those that always complain about "why others are race baiting" or feel like we live in a post racial world just because Obama was president. It doesn't work that way. Prejudice in the general population seeps into every aspect of life from education, to the prison system, to the work force etc.

I would take the poor white trailer park kid and not have to worry about simple **** like playing Pokemon Go in certain areas and having people be suspicious of you for it. Getting the benefit of the doubt of being non threatening is a great thing and I have no idea why you would want to give that up.

Cuthbert 08-16-2017 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1864969)
And the saddest and most ironic part is that it's mostly white people that have completely accepted this social change.

This is very strange for me.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 08-16-2017 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1865017)
It actually is though, it's more than just income that makes people of a different skin color have a different experience in life.

Good luck picking being a suburban middle class black kid, you will constantly have to experience being prejudiced against on many levels. You get into a good school and people will only assume that you were there because of your skin color and not your own merit. You will get pulled up significantly more because of your skin color. Assumptions will be made about you and people will view you as a threat just because of your skin color.

The phrase "boiling everything down to race" is similar to those that always complain about "why others are race baiting" or feel like we live in a post racial world just because Obama was president. It doesn't work that way. Prejudice in the general population seeps into every aspect of life from education, to the prison system, to the work force etc.

I would take the poor white trailer park kid and not have to worry about simple **** like playing Pokemon Go in certain areas and having people be suspicious of you for it. Getting the benefit of the doubt of being non threatening is a great thing and I have no idea why you would want to give that up.

you're right DJ. there are no assumptions made about poor white people. they aren't just "cracked up rednecks." they still recieve a great education regardless of their financial situation. they dont get questioned and they aren't looked down upon when they go anywhere. they aren't viewed as a potential threat any time they're trying to shop or go about their life. and lets not forget just how easy it is for a poor white person to get a job. that suburban black kid would be lucky to be given a chance at wal-mart, right?

Cuthbert 08-16-2017 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1865017)
It actually is though, it's more than just income that makes people of a different skin color have a different experience in life.

Good luck picking being a suburban middle class black kid, you will constantly have to experience being prejudiced against on many levels. You get into a good school and people will only assume that you were there because of your skin color and not your own merit. You will get pulled up significantly more because of your skin color. Assumptions will be made about you and people will view you as a threat just because of your skin color.

A lot of what you just said applies to class in the UK.

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I would take the poor white trailer park kid and not have to worry about simple **** like playing Pokemon Go in certain areas and having people be suspicious of you for it. Getting the benefit of the doubt of being non threatening is a great thing and I have no idea why you would want to give that up.
I'd take living in a nice area away from crime, with a house that isn't rented, better schooling, university and job prospects at the end, over worrying that other people find me 'threatening'.

The amount of money you or your parents have impacts your life more than anything.

Frownland 08-16-2017 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1865024)
you're right DJ. there are no assumptions made about poor white people. they aren't just "cracked up rednecks." they still recieve a great education regardless of their financial situation. they dont get questioned and they aren't looked down upon when they go anywhere. they aren't viewed as a potential threat any time they're trying to shop or go about their life. and lets not forget just how easy it is for a poor white person to get a job. that suburban black kid would be lucky to be given a chance at wal-mart, right?

I'll take ways to ignore the central issues of race discussion for 800, Alex.


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