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jadis · 10-08-2023, 07:16 AM

I envy the confidence of lefties seeking to exculpate Hamas.

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Hamas could have killed FAR more people if it wanted to, that clearly wasn’t point of operation and IMO they killed only as many civilians as necessary to gain control of Gaza border settlements through fear

https://twitter.com/tamars/status/1710625064628928965

This is what she wrote yesterday, amid a developing situation and a death toll of 200 or 250. Now the death toll is at 600. Is it enough to concede that killing people was a big part of "the point" of the operation and of Hamas's entire raison d’être?

jadis · 10-08-2023, 04:41 PM

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jadis · 10-10-2023, 01:26 PM

Not one of my favorite writers but one of the last decent and dignified public figures we have

https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/statu...70980446532002

Tristan_Geoff · 10-10-2023, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jadis

Not one of my favorite writers but one of the last decent and dignified public figures we have

https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/statu...70980446532002

more like least dignified.

seriously are you just baiting trans ppl or what like

Synthgirl · 10-10-2023, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tristan_Geoff

more like least dignified.

seriously are you just baiting trans ppl or what like

Yeah that's seriously pathetic. I'm mad at myself for ever bothering to try to have an actual debate with this guy.

jadis · 10-11-2023, 05:49 AM

That was a sincere outburst of admiration for her absolute clarity on an issue where so many lacked it

I used to have a much, much lower opinion of her, as reflected in this post from over a year ago

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Originally Posted by jadis

Oh you know her. A British lady novelist famous for magical realism? Like really, really famous? So famous it's easy to forget she's supposed to be a novelist and not, I dunno, some kind of tycoon? Unlike the postmodernist Carter, she's not a big fan of the idea that gender roles are socially constructed... Should I go on?

Back then I let myself be influenced by things like my irritation about adult Harry Poter fans, my (likely well-founded, let's be honest) prejudice against her as a writer of fiction and my reflexive support for expressions of gender nonconformity, of which she was reported to be an enemy if not THE enemy.

But the more I've read up and thought on the activist movements purporting today to stand for gender nonconformity, the less apparent it was what was wrong or offensive or hateful about anything she said on the topic. The blog she posted to her site is incredibly thoughtful and fair. Nobody is obliged to agree with every word she says as she is the first to acknowledge, but reading it with an open mind is more than enough to dispel widespread caricatures of her as a conservative bigot.

One of her chief worries is precisely about the freedom of gay and lesbian children to be gender nonconforming.

Synthgirl · 10-11-2023, 07:06 AM

If she's not a conservative bigot, she's clearly not above allying with and praising them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou_xvXJJk7k
And for some of those people, "bigot" is generous, these are straight up fascists.

Key · 10-11-2023, 01:11 PM

how to tell someone you're a piece of **** with ****ty opinions without saying you're a piece of **** with ****ty opinions --v

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Originally Posted by jadis

That was a sincere outburst of admiration for her absolute clarity on an issue where so many lacked it

I used to have a much, much lower opinion of her, as reflected in this post from over a year ago

Back then I let myself be influenced by things like my irritation about adult Harry Poter fans, my (likely well-founded, let's be honest) prejudice against her as a writer of fiction and my reflexive support for expressions of gender nonconformity, of which she was reported to be an enemy if not THE enemy.

But the more I've read up and thought on the activist movements purporting today to stand for gender nonconformity, the less apparent it was what was wrong or offensive or hateful about anything she said on the topic. The blog she posted to her site is incredibly thoughtful and fair. Nobody is obliged to agree with every word she says as she is the first to acknowledge, but reading it with an open mind is more than enough to dispel widespread caricatures of her as a conservative bigot.

One of her chief worries is precisely about the freedom of gay and lesbian children to be gender nonconforming.

jadis · 10-11-2023, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Key

how to tell someone you're a piece of **** with ****ty opinions without saying you're a piece of **** with ****ty opinions --v

Are you a fan of HP but not the gender stuff then?

WWWP · 10-11-2023, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jadis

Nobody is obliged to agree with every word she says as she is the first to acknowledge, but reading it with an open mind is more than enough to dispel widespread caricatures of her as a conservative bigot.

One of her chief worries is precisely about the freedom of gay and lesbian children to be gender nonconforming.

So bigot, much ****ty.
No knee-jerks here.

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Synthgirl Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2023 Location: Cheeseland USA Posts: 155	If she's not a conservative bigot, she's clearly not above allying with and praising them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou_xvXJJk7k And for some of those people, "bigot" is generous, these are straight up fascists.