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Old 01-19-2023, 06:04 PM   #78271 (permalink)
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Yeah, it’s enormously wasteful to wash dishes by hand - by tenfold, easily.
Also, it’s a bad idea to rinse dishes before putting them in a dishwasher.
There is no sanitization that happens when washing dishes in tap water.

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Old 01-19-2023, 06:20 PM   #78272 (permalink)
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I’m not saying I don’t believe you but I can’t make it make sense in my head that running the dishwasher for 3-5 dishes a day is saving more water than just doing them by hand. It would take me a week to fill a dishwasher and feel like it warrants being run!
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Old 01-19-2023, 06:39 PM   #78273 (permalink)
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Are there only 5 dishes total in the house? If not, then you accumulate the number of dishes until you get a full load (not rinsed, BTW) even if it’s a weeks worth.

If you do only have 5 dishes total (and you have to quickly rotate them out for meals), then you can quickly wash them in the sink in order to use them right away, BUT, you need to wash them in the dishwasher every once in a while if you want them to be sanitized. Washing even a small number of dishes is less wasteful than standing at the sink running water. Even if you were able to use less than the 2 to 3 gallons of water total a dishwasher uses (for full loads!), you’re still using twice the electricity.

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I’m not saying I don’t believe you but I can’t make it make sense in my head that running the dishwasher for 3-5 dishes a day is saving more water than just doing them by hand. It would take me a week to fill a dishwasher and feel like it warrants being run!
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Old 01-19-2023, 07:07 PM   #78274 (permalink)
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Yeah, it’s enormously wasteful to wash dishes by hand - by tenfold, easily.
How the heck do you wash dishes?

Avg dishwasher is 6 gallons of water plus the electricity needed to run it.

I use maybe half a gallon for soapy water and then wash every piece before rinsing everything in a bunch.

Plus, how ****ing GROSS to put a dirty dish in a washer and then let it sit in there for hours (days?) until you have a full load.
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Old 01-19-2023, 07:52 PM   #78275 (permalink)
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Are there only 5 dishes total in the house? If not, then you accumulate the number of dishes until you get a full load (not rinsed, BTW) even if it’s a weeks worth.

If you do only have 5 dishes total (and you have to quickly rotate them out for meals), then you can quickly wash them in the sink in order to use them right away, BUT, you need to wash them in the dishwasher every once in a while if you want them to be sanitized. Washing even a small number of dishes is less wasteful than standing at the sink running water. Even if you were able to use less than the 2 to 3 gallons of water total a dishwasher uses (for full loads!), you’re still using twice the electricity.
How are you using electricity? You're running hot water, so I suppose it has to be heated by the central heating or whatever, but it would be anyway. Or you can boil a kettle. Either way that's far far less electricity than running a dishwasher. And do you think everyone stands at the sink and lets the water flow constantly while they're washing dishes? I fill up a small basin, squirt in the fairy liquid and wash the dishes in that. There's no way on god's green earth that uses a) as much water or b) as much leccy as a bloody big dishwasher, to say nothing of all the space it takes up, the cleaning of it and, as Chula says, the idea of dishes left sitting till there's a full load. I never have dirty dishes for more than maybe 5/6 hours in my house. Mind you, there's only two of us and not that much in the way of dishes, but I still wouldn't leave dirty ones around.
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Are there only 5 dishes total in the house? If not, then you accumulate the number of dishes until you get a full load (not rinsed, BTW) even if it’s a weeks worth.

If you do only have 5 dishes total (and you have to quickly rotate them out for meals), then you can quickly wash them in the sink in order to use them right away, BUT, you need to wash them in the dishwasher every once in a while if you want them to be sanitized. Washing even a small number of dishes is less wasteful than standing at the sink running water. Even if you were able to use less than the 2 to 3 gallons of water total a dishwasher uses (for full loads!), you’re still using twice the electricity.
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Honestly with all the ridiculous nostalgia reboots lately I must confess I would absolutely love a cynical edgy Captain Planet revival.

And I've always done handles down. They slide out easier and I always assumed the part you eat with would get cleaner when more out and exposed.
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Old 01-19-2023, 09:30 PM   #78279 (permalink)
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Wow.
So, you wash each dish in the dirty soapy water you washed the last dishes in.
Oh, “rinse everything in a bunch” so, what are you using to rinse with ‘cause I guess it can’t be water?

…and, yes, GROSS is the measure by which you gauge effectiveness. OK. This coming from the guy who made us believe that his flatware holder is a festering biohazard.


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How the heck do you wash dishes?

Avg dishwasher is 6 gallons of water plus the electricity needed to run it.

I use maybe half a gallon for soapy water and then wash every piece before rinsing everything in a bunch.

Plus, how ****ing GROSS to put a dirty dish in a washer and then let it sit in there for hours (days?) until you have a full load.
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Old 01-19-2023, 09:31 PM   #78280 (permalink)
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It’s NOT “far far less electricity than running a dishwasher.”

You have obviously inflated your idea about the “big bloody dishwasher” using (OF COURSE!) more energy when it’s not true. Now, you’re bringing the size of a dishwasher into this? Your “small basin” better be pretty damn small - like, so small that you couldn’t actually fit a full sized plate in it because it’s still gonna cost more energy overall. Jesus people. Just look it up. It’s obvious and it’s everywhere!

BTW: There’s a door on the front of your dishwasher. Dirty dishes can be kept inside for, generally, about 4 days. I wasn’t suggesting a week as a regular thing. If you eat and clean so little of the time, and you don’t use that many to fill a dishwasher, then you get a smaller one instead of a “big bloody one.” You never ever have to “leave dirty ones around.”


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How are you using electricity? You're running hot water, so I suppose it has to be heated by the central heating or whatever, but it would be anyway. Or you can boil a kettle. Either way that's far far less electricity than running a dishwasher. And do you think everyone stands at the sink and lets the water flow constantly while they're washing dishes? I fill up a small basin, squirt in the fairy liquid and wash the dishes in that. There's no way on god's green earth that uses a) as much water or b) as much leccy as a bloody big dishwasher, to say nothing of all the space it takes up, the cleaning of it and, as Chula says, the idea of dishes left sitting till there's a full load. I never have dirty dishes for more than maybe 5/6 hours in my house. Mind you, there's only two of us and not that much in the way of dishes, but I still wouldn't leave dirty ones around.
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