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Old 01-17-2022, 01:43 PM   #76761 (permalink)
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He did in the first part of the post.
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Old 01-17-2022, 01:56 PM   #76762 (permalink)
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For example, the societal division in pre-Revolutionary Russia was based on "sosloviya" (such as nobility, clergy, peasants, merchants, townsmen etc), not classes. In order to bring society towards something resembling Marxist ideas of class the communists had to do a lot of purges of "counterrevolutionary class enemies" in the 1920s and 1930s and even then a lot of confusion remained.
Getting back to this: maybe we're defining 'class' differently, but I assume some of these sosloviya had a higher social status than others, and there would be differences between culture, language etc. between some of these groups. To me that counts as a class: a social hierarchy mainly determined by birth, with cultural and often economic consequences
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I want to open a school for MB's lost boys and teach them basic coping skills and build up their self esteem and strengthen their emotional intelligence and teach them about vegetables and institutionalized racism and sexism and then they'll all build a bronze statue of me in my honor and my bronzed titties will forever be groped by the grubby paws of you ****ing whiny pathetic white boys.
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Old 01-17-2022, 02:15 PM   #76763 (permalink)
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He did in the first part of the post.
He didn't.

One thing is not "a lot".

Especially when even that one thing wasn't actually bull****. He thought of that statement as bull**** because of his own views on the world. While "bull****" is something that refers to facts.
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Old 01-17-2022, 02:36 PM   #76764 (permalink)
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It's either naive or dishonest to frame opportunity for the beaten down as the oppression of the privileged or "exactly the same" as capitalist oppression though. Saying "bull****" is just a more direct way of saying that you're ignoring facts that make your statements untrue.
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Old 01-17-2022, 03:00 PM   #76765 (permalink)
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If you describe Soviet-style social engineering as offering "opportunity for the beaten down" then it's not Mucha who's ignoring the facts. If we're talking in the abstract, then yes, "opportunity for the beaten down" is a perfectly nice idea.
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Old 01-17-2022, 03:03 PM   #76766 (permalink)
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Solid point, mr. psyop.
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Old 01-18-2022, 04:33 PM   #76767 (permalink)
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yeah, I just suppose you're a dumbass
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Old 01-18-2022, 05:01 PM   #76768 (permalink)
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I feel like posting someone's private message is a rule violation. Either way it's a bitch move.
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Old 01-18-2022, 05:05 PM   #76769 (permalink)
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Not sure if it officially is, but I consider it one. Bitch move, Elph. Be warned.
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Old 01-18-2022, 05:32 PM   #76770 (permalink)
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Mucha, you're a bright and talented guy. But you gotta develop a thicker skin. Who cares what some random guy on the internet thinks about you?
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