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Old 08-18-2021, 06:05 AM   #75571 (permalink)
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Well there are still millions of anti-vaxx, anti-science, anti-sense, anti-truth gobshites out there, and more than enough Republican numbskulls and brownshirts to follow a deposed leader in the fantasy that he will somehow be reinstated by magic or force, so yeah, might. In the long run, it might not make that much difference, if each died and was replaced by someone similar (which would be likely to happen, since neither Florida nor Texas has run either out of town on a rail yet) but it would be a start.
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Old 08-18-2021, 07:42 AM   #75572 (permalink)
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Plus Dan Patrick (Texas Lieutenant Governor) makes Abbott look like Ted Kennedy.
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Old 08-19-2021, 11:54 AM   #75573 (permalink)
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Thought I'd give you guys a little update on the situation with my friend. Some of this info wasn't shared last month so feel free to ask questions

TLDR: One of my best friends had plans to move to Maine from California to buy a farm with his girlfriend. She went over a few months early to set things up and he stayed behind to tie up loose ends and to pack their house. He ended up meeting a girl and it ended up driving him to cheat and break up with his gf. He decided to give it a go however in Maine, since they had done so much planning, and hope that maybe he'd get over the girl and be happy. It lasted a week and he told her everything. She killed herself a week later. He found her hanging from a beam in her bedroom. It took EMS over an hour to get there. It took us eight hours to get to Maine. .

I lived with these two in California for three months and was close to his gf. I went through a lot of complicated emotions. I wanted to support my friend. I was also angry at him for what he did. I was also grieving for her. I was close to her.

I ended up not really being able to talk to him about it for weeks and it put a strain on our relationship. Last night we got together for dinner and I was finally able to air out what I had been thinking and also was just able to talk to him about that day and my experiences. It was a good talk. We cried in a f*cking sports bar but so it goes...

He leaves for California tomorrow morning. I'm gunna see him one more time. I feel like this changed us a bit. I had been kind of coaching him on what to do leading up to her death and he didn't really listen to much of what I had to say. I think he feels that even though I had basically told him that it sucked that he didn't listen to me, I realized how difficult a situation like that was for him and that I can't blame him for not taking my advice. I also told him that he CAN'T treat people like that again. He's going to therapy.

His gf had depression issues way beforehand and he even let me in on what her suicide note said. She admitted what he did caused her a great deal of pain but that she had been on the edge of killing herself for years and that she just didn't see a point in trying anymore.

I'm still dealing with that part. Her deciding to kill herself. I miss her. I didn't get a chance to talk to her really after they broke up. I'll regret that forever I think.

Anyway, I am doing better. Time does heal a bit.
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Old 08-19-2021, 12:42 PM   #75574 (permalink)
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Thank you for giving us a follow up. This is even more complicated and horrible than I imagined Really horrible for your friend too of course, thank **** he'll have therapy to help him cope. It sounds like you've been an amazing friend to him, and to her too. I hope things will keep on getting easier with time.
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Old 08-19-2021, 12:57 PM   #75575 (permalink)
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Good luck with that exo. **** is rough.
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Old 08-19-2021, 08:58 PM   #75576 (permalink)
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Said it before: for someone who has gone through - and I think is still going through? - some of the **** you have, it amazes and humbles me to think you could give that much of yourself to the man who was I guess instrumental in the death of your friend. You're a strong man, Exo, and I hope he appreciates what a friend you are to him.

Be well.

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Old 08-20-2021, 10:08 AM   #75577 (permalink)
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Old 08-20-2021, 10:53 AM   #75578 (permalink)
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Thanks for the words everyone.
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Old 08-20-2021, 05:05 PM   #75579 (permalink)
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Having toddled that ledge myself I feel confident that she was telling the truth Joe — nothing you could have said or done after the breakup would have stopped it happening or changed anything that she was suffering internally. I’m really glad to hear you were able to be blunt with E, and even more glad that you’ll get some space. A drowning man will take you down with him. I hope he’s serious about therapy.
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Old 08-20-2021, 05:49 PM   #75580 (permalink)
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Having toddled that ledge myself I feel confident that she was telling the truth Joe — nothing you could have said or done after the breakup would have stopped it happening or changed anything that she was suffering internally. I’m really glad to hear you were able to be blunt with E, and even more glad that you’ll get some space. A drowning man will take you down with him. I hope he’s serious about therapy.
He seems to be. He told me that the therapy his insurance covers requires him to be in state (California) and that he could just lie and say he's there but it's not a good way to start a relationship. I agreed with him.
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