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**Marie Monday** · 05-22-2021, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tore

I'm just posting this any chance I get <3

dude that's fantastic, I love it!
excellent suggestions all around

or I'll just go for appropriate lyrics:

The Batlord · 05-22-2021, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Marie Monday

dude that's fantastic, I love it!
excellent suggestions all around

or I'll just go for appropriate lyrics:

https://m.soundcloud.com/user-343865...-you-know-what

**Marie Monday** · 05-22-2021, 07:29 PM

yikes
Anyway I'm not sure whether that would be effective, it may not put her off considering her controlling authoritarianism

Trollheart · 05-22-2021, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

If you could perfectly replicate the sound of a live performance would you just skip the concert then?

Nah cause it's not just the sound, it's the experience of being there with other people getting trashed / trying to get laid / etc plus being in the same giant room as the musicians you idolize

Just like vinyl isn't just about the sound. It's about novelty seeking. Looking for that special sound that "can't be gotten" digitally. Plus the whole vintage aesthetic involved in the medium. Like, I get why people like that as a hobby. Doesn't bother me if that's what you're into. I used to collect Chinese garbage and scraps of cardboard from trucks I unloaded at Lowes distribution center cause I loved the idea of having a weird connection to another part of the world that I interacted with only inadvertently. So I totally get novelty seeking behavior.

I just get annoyed/amused by how every single person with vinyl records claims it's all about the pursuit of this unique sound and don't acknowledge that at least 50% of it is that they like the idea of vinyl. Just say that instead of pretending to have special ears or something and I would respect vinyl hipsters more. But hipsters can never own their hipster behavior. They're like vampires hiding from the daylight.

You're right about this. I (sort of) miss the ritual of playing an album - sliding the dust sleeve off, slipping the inner sleeve out, carefully handling the album out of the inner sleeve, blowing dust off the stylus. But on the other hand (and I want to be very clear about this) **** THAT. I never particularly enjoyed playing albums; I only played them cos there was no other way at the time, other than tapes. I'm NOT an audiophile and I'm not a music snob/vinyl snob. I don't hear any big difference in an MP3 compared to a vinyl recording. For the amount of care you had to take with vinyl, vinyl can rot in Hell. I'm happy listening to MP3s.

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Originally Posted by tore

Sorry if I've annoyed you. I have gone on bashing something you like and work with, after all. It's nothing personal.

You got a point about there being bigger fish to fry, but it also seems fallacious to say something good is not worth doing because there's an even bigger, better thing that could potentially be done.

Or that it's okay to throw candy wrappers on the street because waste problems are so much bigger elsewhere.

Something that is special about media like music, books and films is that their digital representations serve us very well, so western society could basically get on just fine without these things existing physically even today.

It's a step we're basically ready for.

Somebody mention fellatio?

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Originally Posted by rostasi

All of these formats do have their own sound to them whether they’re vinyl, cassette, mini-disc, DAT, and so on. Because of this, there are various desires coupled with rituals that people will go thru to hear them. I see no problem with that. Sometimes convenience is the driving force, sometimes not. I have all kinds of recordings not available digitally - even new stuff that’s available completely or partially away from digital. Actually, cassettes are being offered by all kinds of labels now. On meeting one of our forum members here a couple years ago, the first thing he did was give me a cassette of his music. Even tho I already had a digital copy, I accepted his gift and I still play the cassette, because it does have a different sound to it (and a convenience). Cassettes dropping out or being eaten up just means that you either stored them in a crappy way or haven’t cleaned your deck in ages. Yeah, LPs are now too expensive for the often lousy pressings, but there’s a historical reason for that having to do with the closing of several pressing plants, and other factors. ...and this idea that some people are too cool to accept CDs from someone just trying to ply their trade is just asinine. What the fuck do you think all of this product is anyway? They’re audio business cards. Like nearly all activity, people don’t always have some secret desire to annoy or feel superior or whatever nefarious quality you want to pin on them, it might be that they have a ritual or convenience that works for their current lifestyle.

To some degree yes. I used to constantly - and I mean constantly - berate my brothers as they would come in, take out the tape that was in the deck in the kitchen (my tape) and leave it beside the speaker, and put in their tape. I asked them multiple times NOT to do that, as they were destroying my tapes. Put them on the table, I'd say. Throw them up into my room. Put them in your pocket and give them back later. Discover quantum energy drives and fire them into a black hole off the left arm of Sirius. Anything. Just don't leave them in front of the speaker.

And every time: they'd leave them in front of the speaker.

So eventually I stuck a note on the deck PLEASE DO NOT LEAVE TAPES IN FRONT OF THE SPEAKER. IT CAUSES DROPOUTS AND CAN WIPE THEM.
They got insulted. I mean, these weren't just albums on tape. These were compilation cassettes I had spent a lot of time creating. Hard to reproduce, or at best a pain. But people are selfish.

I did use head cleaners, though probably not as often as I should have.
The fact remains, tapes jammed, and not only audio but VHS ones too. Good riddance to an outdated medium.

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Originally Posted by goldendoodle

Or stage a haunting to drive her out?

Or an exorcism?

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Isn't that the best time to throw her completely under the bus?

Bit drastic

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Originally Posted by Marie Monday

I thought about that but re: feeling sorry for her, + slight worry about her feral nature
if I suddenly stop posting over the next month you guys know what to expect lol

Cop: "So much blood!"
Other cop: "What's the deal, doctor?"
Medical Examiner: "These look like human bones..."

~~jwb~~ · 05-22-2021, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

My main contention was that this seems more like a bad faith way to justify not liking vinyl or tapes than an environmental concern. Maybe jwb introduced that though, bad faith discourse is his jam.

...? I didn't say **** about the environment. I just said it's a novelty item. Bad faith, huh? Cool, frownland learned a new debate term to throw around besides saying strawman all the time

**Frownland** · 05-22-2021, 08:55 PM

About what I'd expect from a rapist.

SGR · 05-23-2021, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

you were stating it perfectly until the bolded actually

part of it is the experience, but then part of it is the sound

part of it is political and community too for sure

my involvement with vinyl/tapes exploded with the shutdown of shows because just passively listening to mp3s left me with an empty feeling

I'm big into house music, including modern house. It's a real bummer to me that almost all modern house singles are not available on vinyl. For a genre that is so rooted in the culture of vinyl, its absence within its modern form is somewhat surprising - that said, house has become somewhat more sanitized and consumer friendly since the '80s.

DianneW · 05-23-2021, 04:31 PM

just off now as my mate Ash is waiting for a chat...dont bite the bait..walk away with saying nothing doing nothing...You have nothing to gain from any confrontation....take care your moving on... Marie.....

The Batlord · 05-23-2021, 04:34 PM

Nothing to gain but sweet sweet schadenfreude.

**Marie Monday** · 05-23-2021, 04:51 PM

or leedvermaak, as we call it in Dutch
I've seen too much of her desperate side to be able to enjoy that though, Dianne's advice is wise

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DianneW Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2021 Posts: 1,161	just off now as my mate Ash is waiting for a chat...dont bite the bait..walk away with saying nothing doing nothing...You have nothing to gain from any confrontation....take care your moving on... Marie.....