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Old 03-27-2021, 11:29 AM   #74671 (permalink)
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@TH: To be honest, I wouldn't describe the exchange between me and Marie as a personal attack, that part was a civil debate I think, with disagreements.

Also, you've been here long enough to accept this kind of laissez faire moderation style, it's the will of the people...
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Old 03-27-2021, 11:30 AM   #74672 (permalink)
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Saying that adidasss is racist is no more of an attack than saying that my username starts with F. Facts are facts.
Isn't calling a gay man racist just backhanded discrimination?
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Old 03-27-2021, 11:31 AM   #74673 (permalink)
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Isn't calling a gay man racist just backhanded discrimination?
Isn't indeed.
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Old 03-27-2021, 11:33 AM   #74674 (permalink)
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Old 03-27-2021, 11:37 AM   #74675 (permalink)
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Okay, I'm not getting involved in this, but I do have to say this. I am deeply disappointed in the level of modship here. I have always believed that mods should hold themselves to a higher standard than us, otherwise what is the point in them trying to settle disputes and so on, but here I see none of that.

I understand that two people have very deep feelings about the subjects being discussed, but I see a four-way personal attack here - Addidas/JWB, Addidas/Frownland, Frownland/Addidas and Marie/Addidas. Possibly even more permutations. The point is that I expect - and I think we all expect - mods to knock this kind of behaviour on the head and restore some sort of calm, but that's not what's happening here. Mods - not even just one mod but two - are fanning the flames, contributing to the drama in a very negative way, when they should be stopping it.

I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong, what I am saying is that this very much contravenes our rules, is a blatant and as I said above almost four-way personal attack, involving people who should know and do better, and it's become a serious embarrassment. Others are probably sitting back and enjoying the hypocrisy here, but it's setting a terrible example.

I'm particularly disappointed with you, Marie: I always felt you were a level-headed person who wouldn't allow herself to get drawn into these sort of circular arguments which go nowhere as nobody is prepared to meet halfway or just agree to disagree, but you've been pouring gasoline on the fire just like Frown has.

Mods should be able to shelve their personal feelings and say enough is enough; that's what you're paid the big money for. It's, to me, shameful to see you both allow yourselves be dragged down - or indeed, drag yourselves down - to the level of common baiting, namecalling and sniping we should perhaps expect from some members, but not mods.

After all, if we can't rely on mods to keep order and not be drawn into these petty arguments, things like this will go on forever. The hypocrisy is that were this a subject you were not invested in, with different people, the chances are it would have been shut down long ago. You can't, or you shouldn't be able to, pick and choose when to mod and when not. You can take your mod hat off, of course, to join in general discussions, but when it comes to personal nasty attacks you're expected to put on that mod hat and wade in.

I'm sure it doesn't matter to anyone, but the way this has been handled is, to me, an embarrassment for the forum, an indictment of poor modship (which I would normally balk at levelling at at least Marie, but here I can't) and overall a real disappointment to me personally.

That's all I have to say. Hate mail to the usual address.
that's a long ass essay that I barely skimmed and as usual seems you're taking all this **** way too seriously TH but it's funny you think the modding is the problem when the common denominator in all the beefs you listed is adidas

You might forget but actually the beef was supposed to be Jwb vs yd but adidas siezes every opportunity to come in and be the eternal killjoy lecturing us about how problematic we are. He makes himself the target by being an unlikable stick in the mud hall monitor type.
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Old 03-27-2021, 11:42 AM   #74677 (permalink)
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Also about the more general modship critique: we've been over this before, but imo I'm not here to tell you how to behave and set an example, I'm not y'all's babysitter. My job is to ensure that the people here feel safe, in a fair way. I'm far from satisfied with my modding, but only insofar as I feel like I fail to do that. I didn't view this discussion as a situation where I need to step in, but anyhow it is tedious and annoying and on all sides you guys should tone down the catty arguing styles and know when to start acting serious or when not to take things so seriously.
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Old 03-27-2021, 11:44 AM   #74678 (permalink)
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Saying that adidasss is racist is no more of an attack than saying that my username starts with F. Facts are facts.
What facts bro, you couldn't name any concrete situation that would paint me as a racist.
You're beginning to sound like Boo boo level psychopath tbh. Scary.
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What facts bro, you couldn't name any concrete situation that would paint me as a racist.
You're beginning to sound like Boo boo level psychopath tbh. Scary.
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Old 03-27-2021, 12:00 PM   #74680 (permalink)
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What facts bro, you couldn't name any concrete situation that would paint me as a racist.
"Bro"? That word is used by trashy blacks. Please use Proper English so that us civilized folk can understand you.

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Damn, I wonder what you're gonna deflect to next. Am I a murderer too?
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