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jwb 01-10-2021 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2155185)
I’ve watched that several times. I love that clip. Those black Hebrew dudes are hilarious

it's one of my favorites of all time.

Norg 01-10-2021 05:38 PM

she seems like she needs a massive BBC from like mandingo or something

Frownland 01-10-2021 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2155177)
I wish I had some alliances with my contention that it’s incorrect and harmful to make a distinction between the brain and the mind because anything that distorts the Truth that consciousness is physical distances us from proper mental healthcare.

You know that there's medication that changes brain chemistry right?

Psychology recognizes that thought and behaviour are material and uses them as tools to adapt brain chemistry from within. Similarly to medicine, the subject doesn't need to understand the physical minutia of what's occurring in their body for that change to occur.

Dismissing the usefulness of internal mental processes that we experience and usually call consciousness in favour of the tangible physical structure of the brain is a form of mind-body separation. By rooting the mind exclusively to the tangible physical structure of the brain, you declare the supremacy of the brain and segregate the mind into nonexistence. Consciousness, the mind, are processes of the brain and until we can grasp a function occurring over time in our hands that will never be tangible. Thought and mental health treatment remains physical and can be represented by how that tangible material changes, but a physical structure's existence doesn't render its processes irrelevant.

Research hasn't gotten to the point where the structures and processes are understood well enough to identify "wrong" brain structures on sight and we're even further away from being able to functionally restructure brain chemistry without the trial and error that defines modern psychology. That doesn't mean that it's ignored. Restructure that narrative out of your brain.

OccultHawk 01-10-2021 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Norg (Post 2155188)
she seems like she needs a massive BBC from like mandingo or something

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OccultHawk 01-10-2021 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2155189)
You know that there's medication that changes brain chemistry right?

Psychology recognizes that thought and behaviour are material and uses them as tools to adapt brain chemistry from within. Similarly to medicine, the subject doesn't need to understand the physical minutia of what's occurring in their body for that change to occur.

Dismissing the usefulness of internal mental processes that we experience and usually call consciousness in favour of the tangible physical structure of the brain is a form of mind-body separation. By rooting the mind exclusively to the tangible physical structure of the brain, you declare the supremacy of the brain and segregate the mind into nonexistence. Consciousness, the mind, are processes of the brain and until we can grasp a function occurring over time in our hands that will never be tangible. Thought and mental health treatment remains physical and can be represented by how that tangible material changes, but a physical structure's existence doesn't render its processes irrelevant.

Research hasn't gotten to the point where the structures and processes are understood well enough to identify "wrong" brain structures on sight and we're even further away from being able to functionally restructure brain chemistry without the trial and error that defines modern psychology. That doesn't mean that it's ignored. Restructure that narrative out of your brain.

Goddamn you’re a good writer.

Trollheart 01-10-2021 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2155121)
The brain is the hardware and the mind is the software that runs on the brain. There is a difference between the two you are just too monomaniacal to see it. That doesn't mean the mind isn't utterly dependant on the brain.

You can have a brain without a mind but you can't have a mind without a brain. I'm honestly surprised you have such a hard time understanding something so simple.

This is the best explanation I've ever heard. Gets right to the heart of the argument (no pun intended).
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2155158)
Oh I'm sure he believes what he's saying. He just got left out in the Florida sun for too long and it boiled his brain.

You mean his mind?
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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2155162)
That song is overrated anyway. The sounds at the box factory are more interesting to listen to than 4:33.

I prefer the 12-inch megamix special edition remixed by [insert cool producer here as I have no idea]
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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2155184)
4:33 is the kinda thing people rep so they can pat themselves on the back for being cultured and smart

4:33 is time to make a sandwich and a cup of tea
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Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2155186)
Yesss post more of these

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Anteater 01-10-2021 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2155185)
I’ve watched that several times. I love that clip. Those black Hebrew dudes are hilarious

The attack on the Capitol would have been even better if some of those Black Hebrew bros participated.

OccultHawk 01-10-2021 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2155199)
The attack on the Capitol would have been even better if some of those Black Hebrew bros participated.

They’re just trolls though. They’re all bark and no bite. But damn can they bark.

jwb 01-10-2021 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2155192)
Goddamn you’re a good writer.

bro that's the smartest post i've ever seen from frownland and he just broke down in the most sophisticated way thus far why you're wrong and all you have to say is he's a good writer? you're wrong, take the L and move on ffs.

OccultHawk 01-10-2021 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2155215)
bro that's the smartest post i've ever seen from frownland and he just broke down in the most sophisticated way thus far why you're wrong and all you have to say is he's a good writer? you're wrong, take the L and move on ffs.

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thought and behaviour are material ... until we can grasp a function occurring over time in our hands that will never be tangible
I don’t disagree with him. Also, I don’t think he’s writing it to join the debate; I think he wrote it out of concern that I’m going to give up on or not have due respect for my psychological and psychiatric care. I don’t think he cares if I take the L or not. I think he wants me to take my medicine.


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