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OccultHawk · 01-09-2021, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Marie Monday

I realise that technology influences evolution. Maybe it will be as important as you think.
When someone mentions things like that I just immediately associate it with those tedious tech enthusiast guys who make it into some kind of religion. Urgh.

Well maybe you’ll respect that I argue strongly against the assumption that technology is going to solve our environmental concerns. I’m talking about if we survive which in reality I consider it a foregone conclusion that we won’t. I’m just speculating on what it would take.

WWWP · 01-09-2021, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

There's not much doubt about it imo. Technology outpaces evolution by leaps and bounds. It will almost certainly either destroy us or transform us. I'm betting on the former.

Nah, technology drives evolution. Fire is technology. Agriculture is technology. Time keeping is technology. All of these things changed the course of our evolution.

OccultHawk · 01-09-2021, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by WWWP

What is this Cartesian horse ****?

It’s not Descartes. It’s the simple fact that you can’t think something without thinking it. You have to experience something to have experienced it.

OccultHawk · 01-09-2021, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I've never said otherwise...not even close

which is why I say you must just not understand the terminology being used

Cool

As long as you understand consciousness is purely material and not some kind ethereal emergent property of the mind or whatever they’re teaching in ghost classes these days.

~~jwb~~ · 01-09-2021, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by WWWP

Nah, technology drives evolution. Fire is technology. Agriculture is technology. Time keeping is technology. All of these things changed the course of our evolution.

When I say evolution I'm referring to biology. Technology hasn't existed long enough to drive biological evolution to any significant extent and it advances so much more rapidly than natural selection that it will change us through other means far before it exerts enough evolutionary pressure to alter us genetically to the same extent. For example, we will be genetically engineering babies long before natural selection catches up to the impact technology has had on us through the process of random mutations and selective pressures.

**Frownland** · 01-09-2021, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Monkey C, Monkey do

it's that simple

when monkey C something else, monkey do something else

There is no monke, only cause and effect

~~jwb~~ · 01-09-2021, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Cool

As long as you understand consciousness is purely material and not some kind ethereal emergent property of the mind or whatever they’re teaching in ghost classes these days.

Cite any scientific source saying that consciousness isn't an emergent property of the mind and is 'purely material' (whatever the **** that means)