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**Marie Monday** · 01-09-2021, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Well whether you like or not every tool that’s ever been invented is an extension of our bodies.

yes, but what is your point?

~~jwb~~ · 01-09-2021, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

pointing to evolution is the new Divine Right of social speculation apparently

people thought Monarchy was some hard rule of humanity

it's lazy thinking

No, what's lazy is assuming it will go away cause you don't like it

I didn't say it's impossible to replace it but I can't conceptualize a real viable alternative and it is so ubiquitous that I am skeptical that it is something that is actually going away. That's a guess based on available evidence. Not some sort of sacro sanct rule. If you have a counter-argument or an idea for what could viably replace it, but just vaguely pointing out that things can change to justify your own assumption is the definition of lazy thinking.

OccultHawk · 01-09-2021, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Marie Monday

yes, but what is your point?

That technology already deeply influences human evolution.

And even though you make an important point that changing how a person thinks obviously does not require an evolutionary adaptation it’s my theory, just my theory, that it will take an evolutionary adaptation to survive as a species and it will have to involve the elimination of hierarchical social structuring and honestly I don’t think we’re going to get there. But if we do, I believe that technology will be deeply involved in that evolutionary shift.

The Batlord · 01-09-2021, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

pointing to evolution is the new Divine Right of social speculation apparently

It's new? Cause Origin the Species was a kick in the ass for eugenics.

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people thought Monarchy was some hard rule of humanity

it's lazy thinking

One fun thing is that in the 1700s during the enlightenment, absolute monarchy was a thing that was argued for by the smarties and not raged against. Many enlightenment thinkers wanted absolute enlightened dictators to counteract the feckless, dickless feudal systems they'd been living under. They did not in fact imagine any sort of democracy.

OccultHawk · 01-09-2021, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

ah yes the "if you think it, it will be" line of argument

talk about Casper

You experience nothing outside of your consciousness. It’s literally impossible.

~~jwb~~ · 01-09-2021, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Monkey C, Monkey do

it's that simple

when monkey C something else, monkey do something else

lol

~~jwb~~ · 01-09-2021, 07:11 PM

Professor of lazy thinking over here giving his thesis on monkeys.

**Marie Monday** · 01-09-2021, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

That technology already deeply influences human evolution.

And even though you make an important point that changing how a person thinks obviously does not require an evolutionary adaptation it’s my theory, just my theory, that it will take an evolutionary adaptation to survive as a species and it will have to involve the elimination of hierarchical social structuring and honestly I don’t think we’re going to get there. But if we do, I believe that technology will be deeply involved in that evolutionary shift.

I realise that technology influences evolution. Maybe it will be as important as you think.
When someone mentions things like that I just immediately associate it with those tedious tech enthusiast guys who make it into some kind of religion. Urgh.

~~jwb~~ · 01-09-2021, 07:18 PM

There's not much doubt about it imo. Technology outpaces evolution by leaps and bounds. It will almost certainly either destroy us or transform us. I'm betting on the former.

WWWP · 01-09-2021, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

The day you tell me about any part of the environment that’s not interpreted by your consciousness I will concede that’s a relevant point.

What is this Cartesian horse ****?

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~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Professor of lazy thinking over here giving his thesis on monkeys.

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~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	There's not much doubt about it imo. Technology outpaces evolution by leaps and bounds. It will almost certainly either destroy us or transform us. I'm betting on the former.