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Old 12-12-2020, 02:50 AM   #72601 (permalink)
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Oh god **** owning a business. That **** would stress me the **** out and give me an ulcer.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 12-12-2020, 05:34 AM   #72602 (permalink)
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elph - there’s no point in winning a war if you’re not fighting for the right side
But that's the problem. He's not sincerely fighting for any side. It seems to me like his talk about working class people and Art and his rich parents betrays that his whole progressive stance is mostly an attempt to distance himself from the working class, just like his parents did probably (just by a different method). I'm fond of Elph, but I don't trust his motives one bit.

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Old 12-12-2020, 05:45 AM   #72603 (permalink)
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But that's the problem. He's not sincerely fighting for any side. It seems to me like his talk about working class people and Art and his rich parents betrays that his whole progressive stance is mostly an attempt to distance himself from the working class, just like his parents did probably (just by a different method). I'm fond of Elph, but I don't trust his motives one bit.
I don’t think you have a ****ing clue what working graveyard in Texas city gas station is like. How ****ing scary and gritty and in the trenches that is. elph is a ****ing combat veteran. He’s earned the right to a bit of inconsistency. He proves himself every second he spends in there exposed and vulnerable. So I’m not hearing that hot take on elph one bit. He doesn’t have to be a cheerleader; he’s on the ****ing team.
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my parents are technically working class

the proletariat is anyone who works for a living, and they also have typical working class values

I do favor a counter-culture approach more than class politics at this point though, yes
You don’t even need to answer to that bourgeois bull****
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Old 12-12-2020, 06:40 AM   #72605 (permalink)
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my fellow coworkers are all immigrants and gas station for life

one of them told me he voted Trump because black people are crazy

another tells me the homeless should get a job lol
There’s no point in even bothering to disagree. Just methodically redirect their hatred toward the rich. They’re already half way there because they got the hate. They’re pre-weaponized. Those mother****ers are loaded guns. They just need to be pointed in a new direction.
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Old 12-12-2020, 06:40 AM   #72606 (permalink)
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I don’t think you have a ****ing clue what working graveyard in Texas city gas station is like. How ****ing scary and gritty and in the trenches that is. elph is a ****ing combat veteran. He’s earned the right to a bit of inconsistency. He proves himself every second he spends in there exposed and vulnerable. So I’m not hearing that hot take on elph one bit. He doesn’t have to be a cheerleader; he’s on the ****ing team.
Yes, everyone who works a **** job is a class conscious Marx soldier. That's totally how it works.
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Yes, everyone who works a **** job is a class conscious Marx soldier. That's totally how it works.
They are. They just don’t know it yet.
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Old 12-12-2020, 06:54 AM   #72608 (permalink)
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my parents are technically working class

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I do favor a counter-culture approach more than class politics at this point though, yes
They're not, that is not what is meant by working class and you know it.
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I don’t think you have a ****ing clue what working graveyard in Texas city gas station is like. How ****ing scary and gritty and in the trenches that is. elph is a ****ing combat veteran. He’s earned the right to a bit of inconsistency. He proves himself every second he spends in there exposed and vulnerable. So I’m not hearing that hot take on elph one bit. He doesn’t have to be a cheerleader; he’s on the ****ing team.
What Bat said to this. I don't claim to know what it's like, but that's not even relevant. I'm criticising the motives behind his views, not his life, and no one 'earns' the right to be exempt from that criticism by having a gritty job. If you refuse to see beyond rich vs poor and don't allow criticism of anyone in the poor camp we can't move forward, just like we can't move forward if you distance yourself from the working class
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They are. They just don’t know it yet.
Same is true for fascism, buddy.
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Bro, your parents are bourgeouis as ****.
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