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OccultHawk · 01-10-2021, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Marie Monday

oh sure but what he means by it makes sense

to clarify: the way you understand and frame it is different from what he actually means

Goddamn. I don’t know how the evidence could be any more straightforward than what’s directly written above you. It’s no wonder people and by people I mean basically everyone believes such weird nonsense.

**Marie Monday** · 01-10-2021, 01:38 PM

ok so to use your phrasing, riddle me this:

is a loose brain (like in one of those gooey jars or whatever) the same as a mind?

~~jwb~~ · 01-10-2021, 01:52 PM

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But still you make ridiculous claims like the brain is different than the mind.

The brain is the hardware and the mind is the software that runs on the brain. There is a difference between the two you are just too monomaniacal to see it. That doesn't mean the mind isn't utterly dependant on the brain.

You can have a brain without a mind but you can't have a mind without a brain. I'm honestly surprised you have such a hard time understanding something so simple.

OccultHawk · 01-10-2021, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Marie Monday

ok so to use your phrasing, riddle me this:

is a loose brain (like in one of those gooey jars or whatever) the same as a mind?

Since the person would have to be dead, yes.

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The brain is the hardware and the mind is the software that runs on the brain

Yeah so you’ve said.

OccultHawk · 01-10-2021, 02:05 PM

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You can have a brain without a mind but you can't have a mind without a brain

I can still have legs if I’m paralyzed.

**Marie Monday** · 01-10-2021, 02:24 PM

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Since the person would have to be dead, yes.

omg no. A mind thinks. A dead brain doesn't think.

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I can still have legs if I’m paralyzed.

yes, because in this case the legs correspond to the brain, not the mind.

**Marie Monday** · 01-10-2021, 02:37 PM

So let me try to explain it another way. The mistake you make is that you think that when someone says a brain is different from a mind, because both are linked to the same physical object, they must mean there's some other mystery ingredient to the mind than the pure physical thing. That's not true. Example: numerals and numbers are different things, even though they're linked to the same physical object, and there's no mystical stuff involved.

OccultHawk · 01-10-2021, 02:39 PM

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omg no. A mind thinks. A dead brain doesn't think.

A mind thinks? So are you saying the brain doesn’t think then? That it’s the (((mind))) that thinks?

If the brain is dead whatever y’all are imagining the mind to be is dead too. Unless this mythical unidentifiable creature lives on with the caspers in spirit town.

WWWP · 01-10-2021, 02:42 PM

@Marie Exactly. That's what makes this all Cartesian nonsense. **** your mind/body problem, it's all chemicals and crossing wires. Go light another furnace, René pfffft.

OH is being intellectually dishonest, to what end I dont know. But it's exhausting.

**Marie Monday** · 01-10-2021, 02:43 PM

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A mind thinks? So are you saying the brain doesn’t think then? That it’s the (((mind))) that thinks?

If the brain is dead whatever y’all are imagining the mind to be is dead too. Unless this mythical unidentifiable creature lives on with the caspers in spirit town.

that's just linguistics. The mind is thought, the brain is the vehicle for that thought. A brain can be dead but it's still a brain. There's just no thought in it anymore, so the mind is no more. That does NOT mean the thought is a mystical thing which can go spook about, see my last post