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Old 09-16-2020, 07:40 PM   #71491 (permalink)
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well there is a disparity in women... left vs. right
yeah.. when you break down the demographics it should be obvious that you aren't winning over extra female conservatives by focusing on trans issues lol

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but who says they can't be for traditional gender roles?

I think liberals often like to smugly suggest the poor are dumb enough to think they're going to become millionaire's

there might be a degree of misunderstanding what motivates them
I think that idea rubs you the wrong way since you grew up middle class and only recently joined the lower class by failing downward.
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Old 09-16-2020, 07:53 PM   #71492 (permalink)
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Nobody is saying the right doesn't capitalize on culture war ****.... That doesn't mean that's the best way to reach them dummy.
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Old 09-16-2020, 08:07 PM   #71493 (permalink)
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You can think that and I would likely stay silent

But when you say you think lower class libertarians think welfare = girly and that's why they don't support it, that's worth mocking.
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Old 09-16-2020, 08:09 PM   #71494 (permalink)
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Not that I'm siding with elph on the tranny route being the best way, but if you don't realize that a vast number of poor people indeed buy into the mantra of personal responsability etc that libertarians espouse then you just don't know that many poor people

I know it hurts to recognize but life doesn't map onto your ideology perfectly, and people especially are far from rational.
You’re actually dead on here. I’ve seen a lot of it tbh. It’s sad but very true.
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Old 09-16-2020, 08:15 PM   #71495 (permalink)
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So you've found one libertarian and you're basing everything you say on this one guy ...?
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Old 09-16-2020, 08:27 PM   #71496 (permalink)
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More like rational, male logic divorced from girly emotional hand wringing demands that winners win and losers learn their lesson.
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Old 09-16-2020, 08:29 PM   #71497 (permalink)
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Dunno wtf you're on about lol
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I'll bet you don't.
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Old 09-16-2020, 08:30 PM   #71499 (permalink)
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You also have zero experience being poor.
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Old 09-16-2020, 08:59 PM   #71500 (permalink)
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But I have plenty of experience with conservatism.
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