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OccultHawk · 12-13-2020, 10:16 AM

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I think inequality increases animosity towards The Other, but it'd be hard to convince me that we're ever gonna Utopia that **** out with Socialism

I don’t either but first order is nutrition shelter and health care. You can’t eat good intentions.

~~jwb~~ · 12-13-2020, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Yeah if I can't make rent I'm not gonna be homeless

it'll just cost my pride

man, **** pride

That in itself is a sorta boojie hang up

I'll take money anywhere I can get it. Tell your parents to pay pal me, I got no shame.

OccultHawk · 12-13-2020, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jwb

man, **** pride

That in itself is a sorta boojie hang up

I'll take money anywhere I can get it. Tell your parents to pay pal me, I got no shame.

Church

~~jwb~~ · 12-13-2020, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Not all but by far the most important one. The real deprivation comes from the lack of access to resources. Micro aggressions might be unpleasant but they don’t cause starvation.

I think wealth redistribution is so unfathomable they can’t even imagine the possibility.

I think Sanders lost because black people didn’t think he could do it.

Let me ask you this: Out of all the poor black people who come in and out of 7/11 during your shifts, how many would take a job where all they had to do was come in, get called a ****** and go home for $1000 a day? I’m going to bet 100%.

the problem with cost reductionism is that racism, sexism etc still exist with or without class conflict

It's reductive to look at something like say BLM and say really the real problem is classism. I grew up poor, white and in bad neighborhoods and I can guarantee you being white comes in handy when dealing with the cops regardless of your class.

OccultHawk · 12-13-2020, 12:18 PM

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I can guarantee you being white comes in handy when dealing with the cops regardless of your class.

I agree but being rich comes in even handier regardless of your race.

I’d like a breakdown on the average net worth of a person killed by the police. The data doesn’t even exist.

~~jwb~~ · 12-13-2020, 12:26 PM

Nobody is saying class isn't a factor. To be a class reductionist is to say it's the only factor.

OccultHawk · 12-13-2020, 12:36 PM

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Nobody is saying class isn't a factor. To be a class reductionist is to say it's the only factor.

I may or may not be a class reductionist but if it’s thrown at me as an insult I’m happy to own it.

OccultHawk · 12-13-2020, 12:37 PM

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I could argue they're poor because of racism

this is why Intersectionality is the **** man

it explains how these things overlap and play off each other

the answer is a Universal solidarity with No Exceptions

Does that include solidarity with a billionaire just because they’re black?

OccultHawk · 12-13-2020, 12:51 PM

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only on the things concerning their blackness

the gulags are not segregated though

LeBron can keep his BLM jersey while he’s being re-educated. That’s fine.

Anteater · 12-13-2020, 01:18 PM

There is no such thing as re-education when every system inevitably consolidates power in the hands of the few once all the chips are down and the dotted lines are signed. You are asking people to take responsibility for themselves to a degree they will not accept.

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