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Old 10-30-2020, 08:04 PM   #70691 (permalink)
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Yeah, because I disagree, gay people have been discriminated against and brutalized for a long time in all sorts of ways, everywhere in the world, and let's also remember that in half of the world, still to this day, it is illegal to be gay, punishable by prison and in some cases death. It's not illegal to be black in Malaysia, but I can't hold my boyfriend's hand in public here because I might end up in jail. I'd say that's pretty damn comparable.

Just a small taste of what's happening in the rest of the world:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ve-lesbian-sex
I totally agree. Historically it’s been far more dangerous to be openly gay than black in America as well. Gay kids in public schools are still chronically bullied and harassed and frankly homophobia is a huge problem among American blacks.

Right now in America the only accepted narrative is that blacks have it the worst and the greatest sin possible is using the word n igger. It’s just like that’s what they told me on tv. They wrote Black Lives Matter on the basketball courts where open homosexuality is still almost completely unheard of and black people make millions of dollars for throwing a ball in a basket and still consider themselves victims.
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Old 10-30-2020, 08:21 PM   #70692 (permalink)
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Once again it's not just about which groups suffered more but the legacy of the specific slur

The f word has some recent dark history but nothing in comparison to the hundreds of years of systematic subjugation that is tied up with the n word. It literally harkens back to a time when an entire race of people were bought and sold as property and abused as if they were simple livestock. You just don't have the same sort of history with the f word. For one thing, gays were pretty much exclusively in the closet prior to very recent times. Not that that's a dignified role to have, but but black people never had that option. They were systematically enslaved by the millions and then later lynched by the thousands. Please cite comparable numbers of homophobic hate crimes during the same period before you proclaim it was "safer to be black than gay".

And the n word was literally always prevalent in the racism towards blacks in America. The f word is a much more recent slur with less baggage.
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Old 10-30-2020, 08:43 PM   #70693 (permalink)
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Once again it's not just about which groups suffered more but the legacy of the specific slur
By this point it should be pretty obvious I’m not talking about the entire history of the word.

That point is redundant.

The fact of the matter is in most of America getting labeled a f aggot is going to **** up your life way more than simply being black. Ffs gay people couldn’t even get married until a few years ago. ****ing Obama initially opposed gay marriage. In many states you can still be fired for being gay without any recourse.

And let’s be honest about who was never going to vote for Jewish Bernie or Gay Pete.
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Old 10-30-2020, 08:46 PM   #70694 (permalink)
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And the new Supreme Court is likely to overturn gay marriage. I doubt they’ll be considering whether or not blacks can get married.
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Old 10-30-2020, 09:05 PM   #70695 (permalink)
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When was the last time the country got outraged over a gay bashing incident?
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When wad the last time a gay person was murdered by the police?
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When wad the last time a gay person was murdered by the police?
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Gay people don't count because trans people are more oppressed. Big logic.
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When was the last time the country got outraged over a gay bashing incident?
Um excuse me how DARE you forget Jussie Smollett

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