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OccultHawk 06-20-2020 01:02 PM

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Unless you are trying to make the argument that the Europeans had godlike powers over disease
They mostly had immunity because their ancestors were the the ones that survived the plagues in Europe

And they ****ing weaponized it, at least to some degree, for sure

Anteater 06-20-2020 01:03 PM

To be fair, no magical wypepo controlled smallpox death toll can compete with the crime against humanity that are Funko Pops.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2123495)
They mostly had immunity because their ancestors were the the ones that survived the plagues in Europe

And they ****ing weaponized it, at least to some degree, for sure

If you mean that Europeans reaped a clear benefit from the natural spread of smallpox over a few centuries, then that would be the correct answer.

The Batlord 06-20-2020 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2123490)
All I can say is that Europe was very lucky that the Aztecs didn't have big shiny ships that could sail the seven seas. Would have made for a very different history than the one we have.

I'm confused. We weren't so bad to the Injuns but we should be glad they couldn't do the same to us? It's almost like you know exactly how monstrous the US was and is to the Native Americans but you're only willing to admit it when you're ascribing those things to the victims.

WWWP 06-20-2020 01:07 PM

Smells like ass in here

OccultHawk 06-20-2020 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2123498)
Smells like ass in here

Here too but let’s stay on topic

The Batlord 06-20-2020 01:10 PM

For OH it's just cause he **** the bed again.

Lucem Ferre 06-20-2020 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2123496)
To be fair, no magical wypepo controlled smallpox death toll can compete with the crime aganst humanity that are Funko Pops.

As somebody that sucks capitalism's ding dong you should be worshiping Funko Pops.

Edit: Kind of sounds like a slur. Funko pops.

Anteater 06-20-2020 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2123497)
I'm confused. We weren't so bad to the Injuns but we should be glad they couldn't do the same to us? It's almost like you know exactly how monstrous the US was and is to the Native Americans but you're only willing to admit it when you're ascribing those things to the victims.

The point I'm making is that if your gonna take grievance with the past, you also have to have an understanding of what the actual alternatives were based on how people behaved back then. Before Cortes arrived in the New World and set things on the path we are on today, the Aztecs were well on their way to subjugating and/or violently massacring every other tribe on the North American continent. There was no magical bright future for anyone just because white people weren't in the picture. Every timeline is ****ed and all we have is the present moment.

So are we discussing history to make a point about how to improve the present, or are people going to make unscientific observations about how we got to this point? If people are going to argue with me because I pointed out the latter, then that doesn't bode well for any critical discussion.

The Batlord 06-20-2020 01:21 PM

You're not having a critical discussion. You're Holocaust denying. It's a thing neo-Nazis do.

Lucem Ferre 06-20-2020 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2123504)
You're not having a critical discussion. You're Holocaust denying. It's a thing neo-Nazis do.

John Wick over here keeping common sense alive.


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