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Marie Monday 06-20-2020 12:30 PM

No, I haven't heard of any of this but I'm not really surprised :(. That's basically why I said I wasn't certain: it's definitely clear that there have been atrocities committed against native Americans that I (and everybody else in the Western world) haven't been taught about in school

Lucem Ferre 06-20-2020 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2123476)
I have no doubt that some individuals might have wanted to weaponize it like a Biblical plague, but you still have literally only one documentable instance in all of American history where it apparently even came up. That's a long way from saying that a few blankets wiped out millions of Native Americans through guided, systematic intent. The damage was done long before the late 18th century.

Actually two, cause you didn't read it. Which is only what's documented. Most outbreaks in general weren't documented. There's no documentation on the results. Clear evidence that our massacre did do a huge part in spreading smallpox. Regardless of intent, which was there, it was still a welcomed byproduct and contributor to their genocide.


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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2123476)
And speaking of which, don't forget that there is a general consensus that syphilis originally came from "the new World" and subsequently spread virulently through Europe after it made it's own rounds when Columbus made his return trip. The reason we don't talk about it as much today is because even a few million deaths that resulted from that isn't as well documented or politicized as smallpox was. That's the Columbian Exchange for ya.

Or perhaps because the Natives didn't invade Europe, trying to intentionally spread syphilis or commit a mass racial genocide of Europeans.

Anteater 06-20-2020 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2123480)
Don't listen to Ant he is literally speaking out of his butthole.

Ad hominem much?

Lucem Ferre 06-20-2020 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MarieMarie (Post 2123481)
No, I haven't heard of any of this but I'm not really surprised :(. That's basically why I said I wasn't certain: it's definitely clear that there have been atrocities committed against native Americans that I (and everybody else in the Western world) haven't been taught about in school

I was never taught any of this in school either.

WWWP 06-20-2020 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2123486)
Ad hominem much?

It's not as hominem because I'm not even considering your assertions to be a stance or position. Just dumb racist butthole wind.

Anteater 06-20-2020 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2123488)
It's not as hominem because I'm not even considering your assertions to be a stance or position. Just dumb racist butthole wind.

Unless you are trying to make the argument that the Europeans had godlike powers over disease like something out of Avatar: The Last Airbender, you clearly agree with my points even if you don't realize it.

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2123483)
Or perhaps because the Natives didn't invade Europe, trying to intentionally spread syphilis or commit a mass racial genocide of Europeans.

All I can say is that Europe was very lucky that the Aztecs didn't have big shiny ships that could sail the seven seas. Would have made for a very different history than the one we have.

OccultHawk 06-20-2020 12:52 PM

The Trail of Tears makes every US history text and in the same texts Andrew Jackson who signed it into law is hailed as a champion of “democracy”

The enforcement of The Indian Removal Act and what ICE is doing now are peas in a pod. And Jackson is on our ****ing money. There’s a large statue of him in New Orleans right around the corner from the port that brought millions of kidnapped African slaves where they were auctioned on the spot and where no monument exists recognizing that holocaust to this very day.

Lucem Ferre 06-20-2020 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2123490)
All I can say is that Europe was very lucky that the Aztecs didn't have big shiny ships that could sail the seven seas. Would have made for a very different history than the one we have.

You have a strange talent of making your farts sound like they're saying "What about"

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Unless you are trying to make the argument that the Europeans had godlike powers over disease like something out of Avatar: The Last Airbender, you clearly agree with my points even if you don't realize it.
This fart smells like a strawman.

OccultHawk 06-20-2020 12:57 PM

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All I can say is that Europe was very lucky that the Aztecs didn't have big shiny ships that could sail the seven seas. Would have made for a very different history than the one we have.
**** what ifs

I live in THIS **** hole not some fantasy alternative history

Lucem Ferre 06-20-2020 12:59 PM

Ant, I'd appreciate it if you stopped sending me threatening DMs calling me a potato ******.


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