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The Batlord · 06-20-2020, 01:10 PM

For OH it's just cause he **** the bed again.

Lucem Ferre · 06-20-2020, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

To be fair, no magical wypepo controlled smallpox death toll can compete with the crime aganst humanity that are Funko Pops.

As somebody that sucks capitalism's ding dong you should be worshiping Funko Pops.

Edit: Kind of sounds like a slur. Funko pops.

Anteater · 06-20-2020, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I'm confused. We weren't so bad to the Injuns but we should be glad they couldn't do the same to us? It's almost like you know exactly how monstrous the US was and is to the Native Americans but you're only willing to admit it when you're ascribing those things to the victims.

The point I'm making is that if your gonna take grievance with the past, you also have to have an understanding of what the actual alternatives were based on how people behaved back then. Before Cortes arrived in the New World and set things on the path we are on today, the Aztecs were well on their way to subjugating and/or violently massacring every other tribe on the North American continent. There was no magical bright future for anyone just because white people weren't in the picture. Every timeline is ****ed and all we have is the present moment.

So are we discussing history to make a point about how to improve the present, or are people going to make unscientific observations about how we got to this point? If people are going to argue with me because I pointed out the latter, then that doesn't bode well for any critical discussion.

The Batlord · 06-20-2020, 01:21 PM

You're not having a critical discussion. You're Holocaust denying. It's a thing neo-Nazis do.

Lucem Ferre · 06-20-2020, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

You're not having a critical discussion. You're Holocaust denying. It's a thing neo-Nazis do.

John Wick over here keeping common sense alive.

Anteater · 06-20-2020, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

You're not having a critical discussion. You're Holocaust denying. It's a thing neo-Nazis do.

The Native Americans didn't die for the Funko Pop iteration of Judge Dredd.

The Batlord · 06-20-2020, 01:36 PM

Are you having a stroke, Fritz?

**Marie Monday** · 06-20-2020, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

The point I'm making is that if your gonna take grievance with the past, you also have to have an understanding of what the actual alternatives were based on how people behaved back then. Before Cortes arrived in the New World and set things on the path we are on today, the Aztecs were well on their way to subjugating and/or violently massacring every other tribe on the North American continent. There was no magical bright future for anyone just because white people weren't in the picture. Every timeline is ****ed and all we have is the present moment.

So are we discussing history to make a point about how to improve the present, or are people going to make unscientific observations about how we got to this point? If people are going to argue with me because I pointed out the latter, then that doesn't bode well for any critical discussion.

Who is talking about a magical bright future? The only point is that American colonists committed a horrible genocide. This argument doesn't logically relate to that statement, and all attempts to fill in that logical blank do indeed make it sound like an attempt to excuse that genocide

Anteater · 06-20-2020, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MarieMarie

Who is talking about a magical bright future? The only point is that American colonists committed a horrible genocide. This argument doesn't logically relate to that statement, and all attempts to fill in that logical blank do indeed make it sound like an attempt to excuse that genocide

When I see arguments saying that 15th through 17th century people can direct and control diseases to wipe out entire groups of people systematically, I question their understanding of history. This isn't that hard to understand.

WWWP · 06-20-2020, 01:46 PM