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I'm not even fat, I'm just unhealthy. And I usually eat more junk than most of my fat friends.

Some great points in here

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2092336)

The majority of people get there simply based on what their family feeds them growing up and continue those habits when they reach adulthood.

Makes sense

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Our brains adjust to our body weight over time and if you have years of obesity under your belt, the brain references that as the body's set weight point. Surely you've met a thin/fit person who could eat like a horse and not gain a pound? That's because of set weight points as well. Set points makes losing weight as an obese person insanely more difficult than losing a couple of extra pounds gained over the holidays for someone with an average body weight. It even impacts the immune system when the body goes below the set weight which makes obese people more prone to sickness when they're losing weight in the same way that you losing 20+ pounds over two weeks would make you sick.

Also makes sense, though I’d be interested in a source on the immune system point. I’m sure I can find that on my own

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There are also genetic variables that drastically change on a case by case basis

Definitely true

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Then you have the economic component where the American industry has made it more affordable to buy junk food than a healthy meal plan, which contributes to poor Americans being more likely to struggle with weight.

Now this I just don’t understand. In some of my earlier posts I highlighted ways that I personally have saved a ton of money by doing smart meal prepping. I average roughly $2 per meal when I’m really putting in the work. Are grocery store prices drastically different across the country? That’s the only explanation I can think of. Chicken and vegetables are pretty cheap and that’s the core of my diet. How much money do people waste on fast food, unnecessary desserts, and soda? I think your following point here about knowledge is valid, but the notion that eating healthy is out of reach unless you have money just does not seem true to me

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Combine that with the lack of widespread culinary and nutritional knowledge and you have more people buying easy premade junk foods exacerbating the issue.

100% agree

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Hey, while we're talking about stats as justification for ideology, have you read The Bell Curve?

I have not but I should, it sounds fascinating

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy (Post 2092341)

Now this I just don’t understand. In some of my earlier posts I highlighted ways that I personally have saved a ton of money by doing smart meal prepping. I average roughly $2 per meal when I’m really putting in the work. Are grocery store prices drastically different across the country? That’s the only explanation I can think of. Chicken and vegetables are pretty cheap and that’s the core of my diet. How much money do people waste on fast food, unnecessary desserts, and soda? I think your following point here about knowledge is valid, but the notion that eating healthy is out of reach unless you have money just does not seem true to me

It's ridiculous BS.

I spend an average of $30 (US) per week on food which I buy at a grocery store. Rice, beans, chicken, pasta, eggs, cheese, fruit, veg, peanut butter, are a just a few of the items I might buy in a typical week. Eating healthy meals is just as affordable and often cheaper than eating junk food.

How do we know what you're making is healthy?

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy (Post 2092341)

1: Healthy food is cheap if you make it but premade junk food is easy, cheap, and widely available.
2: I didn't say it was the sole factor, I said that it exacerbates the issue when combined with a lack of culinary and nutritional education.

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I have not but I should, it sounds fascinating

It's also incredibly racist.

Sometimes I read discussions like this and I find that the line between being correct and sh*tty person and incorrect and a good person is blurry as f*ck.

YD is a good person?

I'm both mentally ill and physically unhealthy (not really fat though) so I'm twice the burden on the healthcare system that I never get to use.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2092356)

YD is a good person?

I think everybody is both a bad and good person which is my point.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2092349)

1: Healthy food is cheap

so true. but not true for some things. carrots are cheap asf and healthy but my apples are around 5-6$ a bag of 8-10. so them apples not cheap.

kale is cheap from when I bought that and would throw in my ramon noddles :beer:

frozen berries are about 8 bucks for a big 3 or 4 lb bag think, not sure on that one. i just buy because its healthy asf and even if its $15 still a good price :cool: