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10-27-2019, 07:19 AM | #65491 (permalink) | ||||
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Trying again... wouldn't post for me yesterday. The forum hates me.
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And this My parents would have to be really good climbers and diggers to be able to bail me out!
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10-27-2019, 08:39 AM | #65492 (permalink) | |
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Society didn't 'want' me to take any paths. I needed a job to buy food, pay rent, have fun, etc. And then after the first kid I chose to try and make more money. Society didn't push me - I just had more mouths to feed. Question: If you choose not to conform to some path out of defiance, or rebellion, or in some cases, pure laziness, then what's the alternative? Oh, I know.
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10-27-2019, 08:42 AM | #65493 (permalink) | ||
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Sure, many people don't take that path because society wants them to, and if you want it yourself and don't resist, you don't feel any push. If that works out, it's nice. However, it is still the path society would have wanted you to take, regardless of your own opinion, and finding a different option if you don't want it is very hard
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10-27-2019, 08:51 AM | #65494 (permalink) |
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10-27-2019, 09:29 AM | #65495 (permalink) | ||
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No matter what kind of society you idealize, your ultimately just holding your hand out and asking either corporations or the government to hand you your life's purpose on a silver platter. The best someone can hope for is that their interests (in a career sense) line up somewhat with whoever is willing to throw you a bone.
You'd have to fundamentally rewire the way human beings tend to "settle" into their lives in order to have a different kind of approach to society than we've seen up until this point (like a true communist type of society or a moneyless society). Cause the way I see it, everyone is lazy af when you take away any kind of real incentive and nobody really wants to be "equal" to everyone else, because then you don't have an opportunity to show off how your more exciting or interesting or whatever than your peers. Look at the way people act on social media and tell me I'm wrong.
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10-27-2019, 10:12 AM | #65496 (permalink) | ||
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Is Society kinda like God?
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10-27-2019, 10:32 AM | #65497 (permalink) | |
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Yep, Mindfulness, Eddie Vedder's songs on that soundtrack quite impressed me. Some nice (too short) ones without any lyrics as well.
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Society is unlikely to fix all the world's injustices and politicians who present society as a perfect solution to the world's probs are pretty annoying, because afaik that is not neccesarily the role of society. But if you are a part of it, society does give a measure of security, a measure of comfort in what is otherwise a really brutal world - as that poor Into The Wild guy discovered to his cost. In fact, I pretty much agree with Anteater's post, which is not a common experience for me in these types of discussion.
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10-27-2019, 10:33 AM | #65498 (permalink) | |||
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'Society' is a vague term I'm using because people know well enough what you mean by it, and I'm too lazy to spend my time defining the concept more thouroughly. What I mean by 'the path society wants you to take' is also pretty vague of course. I can best explain it by giving a typical example: someone finishes high school, goes to college, gets a job in an office and a nice suburban home, marries, has two kids, works at least 40 hours a week and spends his/her weekends fishing or playing tennis or whatever. I don't mean having any kind of job in general.
And of course people don't explicity tell you what to do, things are more subtle than that. And you don't get any metaphorical stars because it is taken for granted. Don't view this as an attack on anyone conforming to that way of life. It's not meant that way. Quote:
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10-27-2019, 10:47 AM | #65499 (permalink) | |||
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If you're naturally a typical girl or boy, you don't feel any pressure to be that way, and people take it for granted. If you're not that way, you notice resistance from the world around you. Also, nobody directly tells you to be like that, it's more subtle: the culture you take in, the choices your role models make, girls/boys sections in shops, etc. Edit: Ugh. It's just that it has shaped my life profoundly
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10-27-2019, 10:58 AM | #65500 (permalink) | |
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Society got blown up in the 60s and 70s. 2019: Same sex marriage is everywhere. People can get by without cars. Pot is mostly legal. Suburbia, once a pretty black and white place, is now a Crayola 64 pack. Every decent sized city has ethic pockets where you could hang out and not even know you were in the US. Update of my kid Mike for those who remember his darker days when I first joined here: About a year ago he got in the ground floor of this place: https://www.deltaseparations.com/ He's now top management with a 401K, quarterly earnings, and $80K a year. I hate him....
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