Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2085917)

Taking responsibility isn’t posting **** online. It’s supporting yourself not living in a grouphome like retarded people do. I take responsibility when I pay my rent. You’ve been officially determined unable to be responsible for yourself lol


But you can repeat your rhetoric. Too bad you’ve never lived it.

Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2085909)

lol I’ve been making it since I was 18 son

college traveled the world became a tenured teacher survived my career disaster

No homelessness no jail no sad little group homes

take responsibility for never achieving anything dude

your life is a ****fest lol

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2085923)

not really

I know I'm a bad person. But I'm going with what has worked for me so far. So far my life has improved by trying to give a **** so I'm going with that until further notice.

No advice you've ever given me does anything other than enable my evil and cynical side. I'm making a conscious effort to avoid that, because I know that the old me is still alive underneath it all.




It wasn't without substance, you just reject the message

Every time someone either offers a criticism or even positive advice, you rationalize why "it's not worth it anyhow"

Hence sour grapes. That fable describes your mentality perfectly.

Hence why I can't take you seriously when you shrug off being an adult cause "adults cause war, man" and romanticize being a philosopher or artist while making no attempt to do either.

It's just another convenient rationalization, you don't even believe it.

The adult thing was brought up cause you questioned the value of work ethic/being able to endure. Something which, if you ever had to worry about bills, you might understand the importance of.

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2085926)

Alright then.

1. Do you think that humanity historically has embraced ideas of "adulthood" such as taking responsibility for your life, working hard, and leaving aside the bad aspects of society to an extent to concentrate on the good for the sake of being a part of that society and not rocking the boat?

Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2085929)

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2085932)

The way I see it, they value adulthood because adults are useful, reliable, accountable, and self sufficient.

It's almost the same as valuing something like honesty... It primarily affects the way you can interact and cooperate with said individual.

No. I believe power dynamics are derived from actual strategic leverage rather than abstract concepts.

sometimes, yea. But usually they suffer as a result and thus transform that suffering into art.

If you sheltered them and provided everything they needed, God only knows what they would do differently.

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2085934)

so very few successful people don't have a support system

even if it's someone you can borrow $300 from I'm a pinch

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2085936)

So you don't think that a fundamental part of being an adult is accepting the society you live in regardless of that society's nature?

I bring that up because I think that is exactly what allowed the German people to live in the Third Reich. I think that is exactly what allowed for people in the South to live in a slave owning society. And I think that every empire that has ever existed has needed this trait to have their population accept the morality of their society militarily occupying another society.