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The Batlord · 10-18-2019, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

I never finished Dexter. Quit in the 6th season. Got boring. Parts of that show really annoyed me too.

Like he's somehow damaged enough by one childhood trauma to have an insatiable bloodlust yet his dad can train him to hone it within the limits of some sort of conventional morality.

"Harry. The code. Harryyyyy"

Stfu

Also his dedication to his wife he wasn't even intimate with. Somehow it's just a strategic move to have a wife and kids as a serial killer to"blend in." Cause obviously if you're a serial killer, gone long hours of the night, the one thing you need in your life is a nagging wife you don't love wondering where you've been. Plus Dexter just strikes me as gay or asexual in general.

It was an entertaining show in its right... But yea certain aspects annoyed me throughout.

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If I'm being honest, I don't think I've ever cried over a pet. Last two things I can remember crying over irl were a breakup at 24 or so and before that, being sent to live with my dad (being separated from my mom) at age 13.

Certain movies will make me cry. Top one that comes to my mind is La Vita E Bella.

Season 6 was pretty god awful but the season after that was my fav one. Dexter was inconsistent as **** but tops when it was good, and the very concept was about as realistic as superhero comics so you kinda just had to go with it. A sociopathic serial killer with a heart of gold simply requires suspension of disbelief.

The Batlord · 10-18-2019, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

They played cooled ambient music in the series finale iirc

omg fuggin nerd

~~jwb~~ · 10-18-2019, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Season 6 was pretty god awful but the season after that was my fav one. Dexter was inconsistent as **** but tops when it was good, and the very concept was about as realistic as superhero comics so you kinda just had to go with it. A sociopathic serial killer with a heart of gold simply requires suspension of disbelief.

I understand that but this didn't stop me from raging at certain parts

I like to understand my protagonist

Tony soprano, I understand. I felt he had a deep yet convincing persona.

Dexter, I just never quite understood wtf he was supposed to be thinking.

But yea maybe I'll finish it anyway since I'm only a couple seasons short.

The Batlord · 10-18-2019, 06:32 PM

I mean it helps if you consider that the emotions of a sociopath probably aren't that developed. Sure Dexter's relationship with his wife doesn't make sense if you put it in real world terms but if you imagine him as an emotionally stunted little kid in the body of an adult who bonds with people simply by virtue of being around them and sharing in their struggles then you don't necessarily need a whole thesis on their relationship. He does also explain in the first season that he feels they've been put sort of on an equal footing of being ****ed up after everything she went through with her previous husband so their shared emotional growth is thematically linked giving them an equality that goes beneath his being a creepy robot in disguise.

~~jwb~~ · 10-18-2019, 06:35 PM

One of my problems was he was never a convincing sociopath to me.

I think that a true sociopathic serial killer wouldn't win over the audience so they had to inject morality into him somehow to make him a palatable protagonist.

Tony was much more of a sociopath and yet still strangely more likable. Cause he wasn't phony. He wasn't sanctimonious. He was real, flawed, and yet endearing.

OccultHawk · 10-18-2019, 06:36 PM

Tony Soprano was one of, if not the best, developed characters in the history of television. I mean, you gotta lower the bar and enjoy people getting killed son

If you want art wtf are you watching tv for?

OccultHawk · 10-18-2019, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

One of my problems was he was never a convincing sociopath to me.

I think that a true sociopath wouldn't win over the audience so they had to inject morality into him somehow to make him a palatable protagonist.

No **** Sherlock lol

~~jwb~~ · 10-18-2019, 06:41 PM

Well since batlord's response was he's a sociopath so his emotions aren't normal, I felt that was relavent.

The Batlord · 10-18-2019, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

One of my problems was he was never a convincing sociopath to me.

I think that a true sociopathic serial killer wouldn't win over the audience so they had to inject morality into him somehow to make him a palatable protagonist.

Tony was much more of a sociopath and yet still strangely more likable. Cause he wasn't phony. He wasn't sanctimonious. He was real, flawed, and yet endearing.

Like I said, Dexter's characterization is basically comic book logic and you just have to either roll with it or give up. And they absolutely did inject morality into him. Have you read any of the Dexter books? They're kinda ****ing boring cause Dexter doesn't really have any redeeming qualities and so there's nothing for the reader to latch onto and since they're just detective thriller trash they can't survive as "real literature". The TV show makes the correct choice in injecting morality into Dexter because otherwise the melodrama would fall as flat as the books.

The Batlord · 10-18-2019, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

Well since batlord's response was he's a sociopath so his emotions aren't normal, I felt that was relavent.

I didn't mean to look at him as a real sociopath who is diagnosable on the DSM, just keep generally in your mind that his emotions are supposed to be stunted and kind of simple.

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~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	One of my problems was he was never a convincing sociopath to me. I think that a true sociopathic serial killer wouldn't win over the audience so they had to inject morality into him somehow to make him a palatable protagonist. Tony was much more of a sociopath and yet still strangely more likable. Cause he wasn't phony. He wasn't sanctimonious. He was real, flawed, and yet endearing.

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~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Well since batlord's response was he's a sociopath so his emotions aren't normal, I felt that was relavent.