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**Frownland** · 08-26-2019, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

What color is the sky?

Ivory.

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Anything is better than what he's doing right now. Case in point.

Great advice, I can tell you're a man who knows his business.

Anteater · 08-26-2019, 11:40 PM

^ I actually agree with your points there elph. Most people can become good in some form of sales (some people are good with outbound, meeting new people, etc. Others are better making existing clients happier or have some other related talent). Unfortunately, a lot of companies also just have a bad revenue model and/or ****ty products.

I clarified a few things in my last post.

Key · 08-26-2019, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Ivory.

Wait, really?

**Frownland** · 08-26-2019, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

When you work for a marketing company that has clients in specific niches (like real estate, insurance, certain kinds of medical services, technology products, etc.), then qualifying a lead would be taking a call from someone who opted in via Facebook Messenger (or booked an appointment via that business's online calendar) to your company who is interested in the services those clients provide their target market. All sales organizations have people who handle different stages depending on where that lead is in the sales cycle.

This is different from what Frown keeps bringing up. In a telemarketing job, your primary goal is to make outbound calls to businesses on a list of some kind, but in most cases the close rates on those aren't high because they're cold traffic. In most cases, they've probably never even heard of the company you are calling for.

That's like saying that print marketing isn't marketing because digital marketing operates differently. It's cleanly in the same category (and still sucks pretty bad).

Anteater · 08-26-2019, 11:47 PM

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That's like saying that print marketing isn't marketing because digital marketing operates differently. It's cleanly in the same category (and still sucks pretty bad).

I disagree. Someone who is already 80 to 90% sold on your company before you even talk to them is way better than trying to build brand awareness with somebody you randomly called on a list.

**Frownland** · 08-26-2019, 11:51 PM

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I disagree. Someone who is already 80 to 90% sold on your company before you even talk to them is way better than trying to build brand awareness with somebody you randomly called on a list.

It's a better telemarketing tactic than cold calls but it's still telemarketing dawg.

And trust me, those leads are still only marginally better than cold calls. You just get a bunch of people who have the time to waste that don't give a **** about your product. I'd rather get hung up on.

Anteater · 08-27-2019, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

It's a better telemarketing tactic than cold calls but it's still telemarketing dawg.

And trust me, those leads are still only marginally better than cold calls. You just get a bunch of people who have the time to waste that don't give a **** about your product. I'd rather get hung up on.

Point taken, but there's no such thing as a sales process where you don't talk to people at least a little. If I put out an ad for something and somebody calls me, asks me a few questions about what they saw or read, then wants to buy before I even had to open my mouth, that's not really "telemarketing".

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I sold actual vacation packages, but other companies had strictly lead generators

and damn did it look like they were getting Timeshared

they only got paid for the "good leads" which, you know, the sales reps are going to consider exactly Zero of the sales they don't make to have been good leads

I got paid regardless of whether they actually got suckered into the scam part, I always told them upfront not to buy anything once they got to the resort

That sucks. Luckily, companies like Advertising Boost are probably gonna drive a lot of those guys out of business. I'd rather get a free vacation and just pay the resort fees and get my vouchers without all the timeshare bull****.

**Frownland** · 08-27-2019, 12:11 AM

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Why do you think every CRM software on the planet makes distinctions between different kinds of leads?

Because they got a grunt to qualify those leads into trash and cash

OccultHawk · 08-27-2019, 12:54 AM

I’ll move anywhere.

I just need the 60K upfront.

Pet_Sounds · 08-27-2019, 06:52 AM

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tomorrow looks like:

-wake up at 6am
-arrive on campus by 7 to scout out where the **** my classes are at
-begin Maths at 8
-finish classes at ~12
-go home and attempt to eat
-go to work at 3
-end work at 11pm

How tf do you have so much time to post?

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