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DwnWthVwls 07-28-2019 01:44 PM
I've never heard of this book/film but all the triggered youtube comments have me very intrigued.

The Batlord 07-28-2019 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2068426)
It's 100% essential. Fully unassailable. Even without the plot, just the writing is so ****ing gold. There’s no way on earth you won’t love it.
Confirmed. ****ty writers don't ruin my life. I'd definitely give it another shot cause I only put it down to preserve my mental health.

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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 2068427)
Yeah, Nabokov's refusal to be all moralist and unambiguous about this **** really triggers people.

Still have to read the book in English btw
I hate translations and read the originals whenever possible but Nabokov translated it into Russian himself, so I don't feel as weird about it. But while my English rocks and I don't have trouble reading complex literature, Nabokov's style can still be pretty damn challenging.
Must be the Russian. It's a pretty easy read in English.

Marie Monday 07-28-2019 03:00 PM
Yeah, it's not difficult to read. His style is breathtaking though

The Batlord 07-28-2019 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MarieMarie (Post 2068520)
Yeah, it's not difficult to read. His style is breathtaking though
Fo sho.

grindy 07-28-2019 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug McClasky (Post 2068471)
Confirmed. ****ty writers don't ruin my life. I'd definitely give it another shot cause I only put it down to preserve my mental health.



Must be the Russian. It's a pretty easy read in English.
I remember trying to read it once and it was really hard.
But it was ten years ago or so and my English was much, much worse then.
Gonna try again, then.

The Batlord 07-28-2019 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 2068550)
I remember trying to read it once and it was really hard.
But it was ten years ago or so and my English was much, much worse then.
Gonna try again, then.
Definitely do. If a book has that effect on me then it must be an artistic masterpiece.

Lisnaholic 07-28-2019 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 2068550)
I remember trying to read it once and it was really hard.
But it was ten years ago or so and my English was much, much worse then.
Gonna try again, then.
^ Don't worry, grindy, if you can decipher some of the English that's posted on MB, Nabokov shouldn't be a problem. ;)

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Originally Posted by MarieMarie (Post 2068520)
Yeah, it's not difficult to read. His style is breathtaking though
^ Absolutely times two. The opening paragraph of Lolita is in my top five best-ever book starts.

It was out of admiration for his style that I tried a couple of other Nabokov novels, but none of them were nearly as compelling. I think I abandoned them a few chapters in: too much style on topics that were too dull to sustain it imo. In fact, when it came to reading beyond Lolita, I got more enjoyment out of this book, even though it only has 50 or so pages of commentary on Lolita:-

https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/com...1318l/7603.jpg

grindy 07-28-2019 04:10 PM
Nabokov is my favourite author. Can't believe you weren't able to dig anything else he wrote.
Although his earlier Russian writings are probably almost untranslatable. What he did with the Russian language was and still is unparalleled.

Lisnaholic 07-28-2019 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 2068573)
Nabokov is my favourite author.
^ Really? I came to my conclusions about those other novels when I was about 20, so perhaps my ideas are due for a revision. I think I tried "Speak, Memory" too, which, being an autobiog, I expected to enjoy but didn't for some reason. :(

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Although his earlier Russian writings are probably almost untranslatable. What he did with the Russian language was and still is unparalleled.
^ yep, I can believe that: he was a real master of style.

Frownland 07-28-2019 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 2068573)
Nabokov is my favourite author. Can't believe you weren't able to dig anything else he wrote.
Although his earlier Russian writings are probably almost untranslatable. What he did with the Russian language was and still is unparalleled.
Not sure if you've read it, but I'd be interested in your take on Sebald's Rings of Saturn comparing the German and English versions to one another, having only read (and loved) the English version. He was central in the translation which should make that pretty good. Honestly, reviewing translations would be a top notch journal or thread idea if you were up to taking the time out for it.


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